Desperately Looking for lovely Pigeons to raise

[AZWhitefeather]

Originally Posted by tms1950

Could someone tell me what the issue might be with putting pigeons & doves together?

I've been told it's because of the size difference. Pigeons are larger than doves & can be a bit aggressive.

Cindy

[upcd]

On your new bird. And on the fact that doves are getting along with pigeons. Noticed in the picture the pigeon sitting on eggs. With newspaper as nesting material. If possible use pine needles.straw,hay,grasses,felt or carpeted pads. So the youngtsers have some footing and don't become handcapped with splade legs. Which when the legs go in different directions. Just a thought.

[Trees Gray]

Hi Kamau,

What adorable pictures, they seem so sweet together & the pigeon looks content. Do they spend their nights inside?

Thanks for the update

[Kamau]

Hello again, Thanks for your replays.
On the comment about placing pigeons and doves together;
it has to do with the size as mentioned.
The size of a pigeons' beaks and wings are larger than doves' and can be deadly in an attack.
Because of these two useful tools.
A pigeon can easily injure or kill a dove.

Thanks for the thought upcd.

On your new bird. And on the fact that doves are getting along with pigeons. Noticed in the picture the pigeon sitting on eggs. With newspaper as nesting material. If possible use pine needles.straw,hay,grasses,felt or carpeted pads. So the youngtsers have some footing and don't become handcapped with splade legs. Which when the legs go in different directions. Just a thought
I checked out the pics, and I don't remember a pigeon incubating eggs.

[Kamau]

Hello again, Thanks for your replays.
On the comment about placing pigeons and doves together;
It has to do with the size as mentioned.
The size of a pigeons' beaks and wings are larger than doves' and can be deadly in an attack. This can be seen when a pigeon is placed in a cage or a small area with doves. An animal instinct is, to defend 'your' terittory.
Thus a dove placed in a small area may have no chance of escape from an angry piegeon. Because of these two useful tools.
A pigeon can easily injure or kill a dove.

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On your new bird. And on the fact that doves are getting along with pigeons. Noticed in the picture the pigeon sitting on eggs. With newspaper as nesting material. If possible use pine needles.straw,hay,grasses,felt or carpeted pads. So the youngtsers have some footing and don't become handcapped with splade legs. Which when the legs go in different directions. Just a thought
I checked out the pics, and I don't remember a pigeon incubating eggs.

Thanks for the thought upcd.
I don't recal the pics of a pigeon incubating eggs on with newspapers.
The closest one is the pic, whereby the male chinmoy is constructing a nest, even though the nest is incomplete.

I agree with the leg discomfort and disabilty this can result into.
Furthermore I would also like to add; the main reason behind nesting materials is to keep the eggs stable, in other words to avoid them from slipping away from the nest site and result into breakage. Thanks again

On the part of keeping the birds indoors.
First of all, a year or so ago I had some concerns about the conditions of doves placed outdoors all year round including 'winter'.
I had to make research on my own, I looked up at google and received a whole lot than I had anticipated. In some dove related pages I had found out that doves can live under 'freezing conditions', as long as they are fed properly and taken care of.
In Georgia we rarely receive any snow or conditions close to that except during late December or mid January.
The day I took the photos, the weather condition was cold, but compared to other states one may wonder what 'we say as cold'.
That day it was 54 degrees F.
Today we had some sun shine, and the temp. was moderately normal.
Thats one good thing a like about Georgia cold and warm are daily live during our winter and fall tim.'
So we have not really received the winter temps yet.
The worst weather we may have in Georgia is close to 50-40s before the end of december. I know my doves have no problem with this, and they can pretty much out stand the temps. in this year as well.

But I had in my mind (this was last week) to completely close the aviary with special plastic material as I have used in 2004. I have taken an 04' pic with the white dove. This helps to keep the aviary warmer place.

The main reason that I can not bring these doves indoors is due to lack of space. I have no where to put them.
I also have no cages to place them in. So they will do fine inside the aviary as they did a year ago.

I have stopped using cages since my parents and close relatives have adviced me not to use such kinds of devices. I went along with their decisions. I rarely use cages, except when I want to introduce new mate partners.
I like to expose them to the real world; where they can be visited by wild mourning doves, wild finches, and wild blue jays ( they make the utmost alert sound).

I loove my dooves and any bird under my responsibilty.
There is no way I will let them suffer or leave them in a poor condition always.
Thanks again folks

[Kamau]

As in all animals including birds, we witness the mating rituals.
Last night I witnessed a mating ritual that took a very long time than usual.
They had on going mating ritual for almost 1 minute and few seconds, ( I wish I had a timing watch). They were doing the mating ritual over and over more than five times, I really became astonished. In each time they would skip the final stage of mating. I ran and craped my camera to take their photos.

Here is the Link: http://community.webshots.com/album/523456720mRwrrO

There is one thing that I am amazed with!
During the spring and summer seasons, the doves would do the mating ritual and am talking about successful matings. After couple of weeks I would see the arrival of eggs.
Now when the same behavior is done in fall or winter, no eggs are layed.
I wonder what controls them to lay eggs in summer and not winter persay.

[Pigeonpal2002]

Hi Kamau,

In the winter months, when daylight has declined, male birds (pigeons & doves included) especially are affected by this. The decline in daylight causes lower sperm count and production which is completely natural. It's just part of nature's mysterious way to ensure the survival again. In the cold months, parent pigeons wouldn't have a good chance in successfully raising young and this is like a built in way to prevent them from laying Of course it's not fool proof and this can be altered in domestic birds with the help of extra lighting, but, this is the reason why

[Lady Tarheel]

This was an interesting series of pictures for anyone who is not familiar with the mating rituals of pigeons or doves.

They are beautiful, well cared for doves.

Maggie

[LuisO]

Hey,

Awsome story beautiful doves and congrats on the new pigeon! I just want you and everyone else to know that once your pigeon becomes of breeding age you might want to seperate him from the doves, that is of course if you don't want him and a dove raising babies. They can reproduce together. The resulting babies are infertile for the most part and some can be extremely beautiful. Its just something to think about if it hasn't been mentioned to you already.

Take Care!

Luis

[Kamau]

Hi to everyone.
Long time no replay!
After awaiting for the gender of my lonely pigeon, I have narrowed it down to be a female. It chases male doves and tries to preen their wings and beaks.
I have also observed in many ocassions this pigeon croaching down for the male doves to hump on its back and mate with it. It hasn't been cooing and rotaing 360 degress which is generally done by males!
Nevertheless, these doves are scared of the pigeon and constantly flay away from it.
As stated previously intermixing doves and pigeons can have a lobg term effect on their offspring, I do not have any intentions of mating a dove and pigeon (which is possible again), but would like to get it a proven male.

Thanks

[Trees Gray]

Originally Posted by Kamau

As stated previously intermixing doves and pigeons can have a lobg term effect on their offspring, I do not have any intentions of mating a dove and pigeon (which is possible again), but would like to get it a proven male.
Thanks

Hi Kamau,

Check out this beautiful proven male on this thread.

Beanie Baby needs a home:

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=13960

[Kamau]

Hi guys, I think I may have to change my mind.
One of my male dove (Fawn) accepted the pigeon as a mate.
I am still open to a male pigeon.
Thanks

[Pigeonpal2002]

Hi Kamau,

Sorry it took so long to have your pictures validated. I'm not even sure why we have to go through this process but I've enabled them to be viewed by the members now.

Sorry again and your dove and pigeon are both very nice

[Reti]

They are very beautiful birds, Kamau.
Great pics. Thanks for sharing.

Reti

[Kamau]

Hello to everyone!
I see that many pigeons need good homes.
I wish I could help out but the owners are way too far from GA.
My single pigeon is now close to a year old and 100% female.
It had layed infertile eggs (still sitting on the second clutch).
Somehow the bond between the Fawn dove and the pigeon is not working out.
I am in need of a good male pigeon for my single pigeon.
Thanks!