Want to Adopt (North Jersey)

[alb23m]

Hi, im new on the forum so first of wall wanted to say hello to everyone. I basically want to have my own little flock, but only just want to start out with one pair for now. I am looking for baby pair. My dad use to have his own when he was my age so he knows a thing or two. If anyone in my area has a pair they can give to me it will greatly be appreciated. Im in the process of building my own loft, i am quite handy with this stuff, so don't worry about a home they will have a good one to come to. If you have a pair you can pm or send an email. Thanks.

[spirit wings]

do you just want two or a pair as in male/female, if you want m/f, they will have to be old enough to guess the sex at about 4 to 5 months old. is there a breed you are interested in or just anything.

[alb23m]

A male and a female. Any breed will do just fine for now.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by alb23m

A male and a female. Any breed will do just fine for now.

A baby pair will not be sexed, so you will have to find a pair that is old enough to tell the sex, you can tell the year they were hatched if they are banded, and that should have the year they were hatched on the band. if not you may not know the age, unless the person that you get them from is honest with you about the age. Are you wanting to keep them in a loft all the time or fly them. that will also help narrow down where to look.

[alb23m]

I want to fly them. But i don't mind keeping a pair of babys in the loft until they're old enough.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by alb23m

I want to fly them. But i don't mind keeping a pair of babys in the loft until they're old enough.

Ok, if you want to fly them, then you need a specific breed for that, homers, or loft flying birds like, tumblers, tipplers, rollers. high flyers, the homers will have to be under 40 days old, and you will not know the sex at that age, they will try to fly back where they came from if let out any older than that. the others can be any age, just need to keep them up for month at your loft and teach them to come in with a whistle or call. if you have young ones under 4 or 5 months you will not know the sex as they are too young to tell for sure, so if you want a pair m/F they should be old enough to beable to tell what they are.

[alb23m]

Yea, any of the breeds you mentioned will do just fine. Im going to the only bird shop i know. I called them and they said, they didn't have any pigeons but if i stayed in contact to see if they bring in a pair. I don't know where else to get them from, except here on this forum. Haha, i didn't know it would be so tough finding a couple of pigeons. But thanks for all your help Spirit Wings, you have been very helpful with all the info.

[Dezirrae]

Hi You may want to send an email to LuisO (luisortizmatos@gmail.com) and see if he has any younger ones or breeders that could get you started. He has a fairly large size flock of white homers in Hammonton, NJ (near Atlantic City) and may be able to help you get started. I don't know if he's been online here much lately which is why I suggest emailing him directly.

Also, there may be some pigeon racing clubs in your area - where abouts in N. Jersey are you? You can always try googling "pigeon racing clubs your town NJ" and see what comes up.

And here's a site that you may be able hook up with regarding tipplers - http://www.tossingtipplers.com/index.html... not toooooo far away since he does participate in NJ races.

Keep in mind there's the NPA Grand National Convention and Show in Lancaster, PA, in early January (three-day event). If you're interested in going you should be able to gather lots of information on a variety of breeds & likely even pick up a pair or two (or three... LOL).

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by alb23m

Yea, any of the breeds you mentioned will do just fine. Im going to the only bird shop i know. I called them and they said, they didn't have any pigeons but if i stayed in contact to see if they bring in a pair. I don't know where else to get them from, except here on this forum. Haha, i didn't know it would be so tough finding a couple of pigeons. But thanks for all your help Spirit Wings, you have been very helpful with all the info.

you need to remember, fancy pigeons should not be let out of the loft, so, the breed you get is important, not just any pigeon.

[alb23m]

Originally Posted by Dezirrae

Hi You may want to send an email to LuisO (luisortizmatos@gmail.com) and see if he has any younger ones or breeders that could get you started. He has a fairly large size flock of white homers in Hammonton, NJ (near Atlantic City) and may be able to help you get started. I don't know if he's been online here much lately which is why I suggest emailing him directly.

Also, there may be some pigeon racing clubs in your area - where abouts in N. Jersey are you? You can always try googling "pigeon racing clubs your town NJ" and see what comes up.

And here's a site that you may be able hook up with regarding tipplers - http://www.tossingtipplers.com/index.html... not toooooo far away since he does participate in NJ races.

Keep in mind there's the NPA Grand National Convention and Show in Lancaster, PA, in early January (three-day event). If you're interested in going you should be able to gather lots of information on a variety of breeds & likely even pick up a pair or two (or three... LOL).

Atlantic City is about 4 hours away so its to far, i live in Hawthorne NJ all the way up north.

You mean like Fantails i cant let them out? My cousins had them and he let the out to fly all the time.

[Dezirrae]

Mmmmm - yes, 4 hrs is a bit of drive. Especially when there are clubs closer to you. Do a Google search on "hawthorne, nj pigeon clubs" -- you've got some in Paterson, Lyndhurst, etc. I could copy/paste them, but just as easy for you to have the search results in front of you

If your friend was letting Fantails fly free he's quite lucky they came back - my understanding is that Fancy Breeds weren't bred for homing - so their natural instinct isn't as strong as racing pigeons. Also, the Fancy breeds haven't been taught to forage for food on their own and to find shelter outside - so if they don't make it home they would be in serious danger trying to survive on their own.

Good luck and please keep us posted on your findings!

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by alb23m

Atlantic City is about 4 hours away so its to far, i live in Hawthorne NJ all the way up north.

You mean like Fantails i cant let them out? My cousins had them and he let the out to fly all the time.

It would be a gamble to let fantails out, if they were a mix with a homer or loft flying pigeon maybe. I knew one that had lived out all the time for 4 years, untill he was caught by the owner to give away...so you will hear stories, but your best bet is a breed that can/might out fly hawks if need be. and they would be the ones listed before.

[Dezirrae]

Here are some more Jersey leads from Deone Roberts of the American Racing Pigeon Union.

CEDAR GROVE (PATERSON HP Club) RAY TORRES 973-785-2222
DENVILLE (LAKELAND FLYERS club) ED LISI 973-625-9649
NESHANIC STATION (TRI COUNTY HP Club) ANTHONY SORRENTINO 908-806-8021
PORT MONMOUTH (BAYSHORE HP Club) JOHN MINNUIES 732-495-3585

Contact Deone directly (see below) for a free information packet

Deone Roberts
Sport Development Manager
American Racing Pigeon Union
P.O. Box 18465
Oklahoma City, OK 73154-0465
1-800-755-2778 or 405-848-5801
aupromo@aol.com

[alb23m]

I called Lyndhurst HP Club and no one picked up.

I called/Drove to a Paterson HP club, the place was locked up, but i did see a flock of pigeons 10-15 on the street in front of the building.

I called Cedar groove no one picked up.

I will try again later and then if nothing, i will call the ones further away. When i call them should i just ask them for me to buy a pair or if they can give me a free pair? I don't want to go in there and kinda look stupid hehe.

[alb23m]

Yess i am getting a pair in 2 days. So i went again to the Paterson HP club tonight again haha. I was knocking on the building door, but no one was answering. I saw that the door was unlocked, so i just went in. They were having a meeting. I told them what i wanted, and this guy said he would give me a pair (Homers) in 2 days. Cant wait. ill keep you updated...