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Drug Chart - Drawn up by NootiI found that Nooti/ Helen's drug chart had been archived...it is something that I refer to regularly and I think others would also find useful....can this be upgraded to a sticky, please? I have copied and pasted the information below:
Here's a list of drugs which I have used successfully for years and the ailments which are sensitive to those particular medications. I have used the generic names first and the brand names in brackets which people will be familiar with. These brand names can be different in different parts of the world but the active ingredient is the same. ENROFLOXACIN (Baytril) Dose - 10-20mgs per kilo - BID (twice daily) 7 - 21 days Effective against small surface wounds containing aerobic bacteria, oral E.coli and salmonella -(Paratyphoid) and some respiratory infections involving the bronchial tubes. It is ineffective against anaerobic bacteria and should not be used for any gut bacterial problems or deep puncture wounds which involve anaerobics. TRIMETHOPRIM/SULPHONAMIDES (Septrin, Bactrim, Co-trim, Tribrissen, Septra, Sulphatrim) Dose - 50-100mgs per kilo. BID 7 days Effective against most anaerobic bacteria and therefore suitable for gut bacterial infections and coccdial overburdens. The very best of this family of drugs is Trimethoprim Sulphamethoxazole- (Septrin) which effects a cure in 99.9% of cases if caught early. Can be used in conjunction with penicillins. It is ineffective in the presence of necrotic tissue. AMOXYCILLIN AND CLAVULANIC ACID (Synulox, Clavamox) Dose - up to 50 mgs per kilo BID if injection or up to 125mgs per kilo TID (three times daily) orally- up to 3 weeks. Dose and dosing interval determined by infection site, severity and organism involved. Used to treat severe or deep puncture wounds, and helps greatly in preventing the spread of necrotic tissue. Is also effective against gut E.coli. It is not recommended that this drug be given orally in the case of critically ill patients as absorption from the GI tract is unreliable, however many people do not have access or knowledge to give by injection so orally is the only option and better than nothing. This drug has a much broader spectrum than Baytril and therefore will treat a much greater range of ailments. Can be used in conjunction with Trim Sulphas. Refrigerate oral suspension and discard after 10 days or if liquid becomes dark. Avoid concurrent use with tetracycline, erythromycin and chloramphenicol. METRONIDAZOLE (Flagyl, Torgyl, Stormogyl) Dose 20-50 mgs per kilo BID or 40-100mgs per kilo OID (Once daily)- 14 days. In very rare cases, liver damage can be caused by prolonged use over 14 days - but it is very rare and one must balance the risks. If maintained for 14 days or more it is highly effective against a severe infection of trichomonas gallinae and in preventing an inside recurrence- (not reinfection from an outside source, ie another bird). Used for anaerobic, (flushing deep wounds), and protozoal infections. Can be given concurrently with Amoxy and Trim Sulphas. DEXAMETHASONE (Duphacort Q, Colvasone, Dexadreson, Dexafort) Dose 0.3-1mg per kilo OID or BID or q (every) 48hrs until not needed. Use higher doses for shock and trauma. Dexamethasone is a corticosteroid whose anti-inflammatory potency is 7.5 times greater than prednisolone and is suitable for high-dose therapy. It is also an appetite stimulant. Used for concussion in the main but can be used if given on alternate days as an appetite stimulant for birds who - despite showing no obvious symptoms or have been through a long drawn out illness, simply refuse to self feed. When discontinuing after chronic therapy, dose should be tapered off - ie every alternate day until cessation. Chronic use or abrupt withdrawal of drug may lead to development of Cushings Syndrome as the drug depresses adrenal gland function. FENBENDAZOLE (Panacur) Dose - 10-16mgs per kilo as a one off dose - can be repeated in 10 days if targeting nematodes. Give for 3 consecutive days if targeting Syngamus Trachea (lungworm) or microfiliae and trematodes. 5 consecutive days if targeting capillariasis. I often just give a one off dose but will repeat depending on severity of infection. Note - if targeting Syngamus trachea - a course of Amoxy and Clav acid should be given for at least 14 days afterwards as the worms are in the lungs and not the digestive tract so are not excreted and the bodies will rot in the bronchial tubes where they lie, causing severe infection. HARTMANN'S SOLUTION (lactated ringers) This is used as a water/electrolyte replacement therapy. As a general rule 40-60mls per kilo per day is a maintenance dose. In cases of severe dehydration double or triple the dose. Can be injected IV, (intravenously) SQ (Sub cutenously)or IP (intraperitonium) (recommended for speedy recovery). LECTADE - as above but for oral use only Helen
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HI cynthia, Yes Helen's drug chart will certainly be helpful to others. Thanks for that . Is it possible to purchase these drugs from an avian supplier here in the UK, or do I have to go to a veterinary surgery??
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Apart from Panacur (which I consider too dangerous to use on pigeons) they are prescription only.
I have Baytril and Synulox if you need some. You can also buy Appertex (for cocci) and Spartrix (for canker) without a prescription, Cynthia
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Thanks for your kind offer Cynthia. I will definitely take you up on that offer in the future,thankfully all my piggies are well at the moment. So can I buy appertex and spartrix from a chemist or avian suppliers? Sorry if I appear ignorant I'm new to all this. Canaryjayne.
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HI Canaryjayne,
You can buy Spartrix and Appertex on line, from a pigeon supplier or from the vet's dispensary. Cynthia
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She suggested yesterday that we give her another round of Pyrentel (and, thankfully, no worms have passed) but I mentioned to her that there had been some concern about Panacur. She told me that she felt it to be a safe wormer provided the exact, correct dosage was given. I am hoping to find out more from her soon about this as she is going to consult a colleague of hers in Oklahoma and I hope she does mention the Panacur to him. If I can ever sit still long enough to get my thoughts together I'm doing a thread about what we've gone through with Whitey in hopes it may help someone else.
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Hi Maggie,
There was something said on another forum, I will e-mail it to you privately. Cynthia
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Hi Maggie, If you're talking about Dr. Marx, the article from PigeonNetwork was written by Marx, I believe. Fenbendazole and Albendazole were specifically dealt w/in that article regarding usage on pigeons, but another wormer that I've seen cautions on for use w/pigeons would be Mebendazole (Vermox). fp |
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Cynthia, thank you. I'm grateful for any info.
 fp - I don't think this doctor is Dr. Marx. She called him by the first name "Roger" and I think Dr. Marx's name is David.
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