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Posted 4th June 2007, 02:39 PM
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Found - young, injured crow...please help!


Hello everyone,

Just as I figured, I was taking my daily walk around our office park and I ran across a young crow that I thought was dead on first look. As I looked closer, I realized that the little one was still breathing and injured.

He appears to be quite young, although he has a majority of his feathers. I notice that as I approached him, he opened his beak wide and let out a "graaaaK" (which I assume is crow for hey there...feed me).

He has a laceration on his right wing, which seems to be fairly deep. Both sides of the wing are heavily bruised, and he has blood caked on both sides. I can't tell if the wing is broken.

He is extremely dirty and wet, so I can't really tell much else. I immediately took him in and placed him in a soft box. I took the rest of the day off and now have him isolated in my bathroom in his box posting this. I have a heating pad that I plan to place him on for a bit and then I would like to clean him up and treat his wounds with some peroxide to make sure they don't get infected. Poor little baby is mangled

What do I do from here on out? I have no idea what to feed a young crow, and he is obviously very hungry. He doesn't have much meat on his bones, and seems quite sleepy. I think he's really run down.

I have various types of tubes and droppers, and can run to the store to pick up anything I need to help him. Please help me!

Here are some really bad pics of him. I'd try to get better, but my camera is on it's last legs.

http://flickr.com/photos/8525789@N04...7600311297822/


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Posted 4th June 2007, 02:46 PM
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Oh, another thing I notice is that he seems to occassionally let out what sounds like a cough. It's a labor for him to do this, as he is really weak. Also, you can see the membranes on his eyes quite often. He spends a lot of his time with his third eyelid closed.

Additionally, his poops are a milky yellow color...almost the color of butter.

I have him on his heating pad right now.

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Rylinn,
Do you know of a Wild LIfe Care center in Seattle or an Avian Vet? That's where the bird needs to go. Crows are Federally protected and need to be in an approved facility.
Looks to me like the baby needs antibotics.
Temporarily you can feed moistened puppy chow. You want it to be soft and not hard at all. Discard unused portion. Scrambled egg .
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Posted 4th June 2007, 03:10 PM
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I don't know of any off-hand, as I have had pretty bad experiences in the past with local shelters and birds. When I found my pigeon, every place I called told me rudely that they either couldn't take her or I could bring her in to be put down if I wanted to.

I'm in the process of trying to search online for a place I could call, and until then I have the baby on a heating pad in my bathroom. I'm just not sure if there is anything I need to do until then. I am going to step out to the store in a few minutes to pick up some pedialyte and food according to this article:

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/babycrow.htm#rehab

If anyone knows of any reputable places in Seattle that I could call, please let me know. I don't want to get in trouble for having the bird, but I don't want to take him to a place that I know "has no time" for hurt birds either.
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A pigeon doesn't get the regard that true wildlife does. It is true that you'd need a good vet who does wildlife. Anyhow, he needs rehydration before food, elsewise the food could kill him. He sounds pretty bad, actually. The water given needs a bit of salt and maybe a bit of sugar or grape juice (some birds don't take some sugars very well and I can't remember where crows fall). You can use unflavored pedialyte. You don't want to give too much at a time. Do you think he'd drink on his own or is he so bad off that you'd have to gavage him?

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Here you go,
Paws located in Arlington
425-787-2500, ext. 817

Sarvey Wildlife Care Center located in Arlington
360-435-4817
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Rylinn,

Don't know too much about crows, but here are some links about crows when you have the time. Don't see much about emergency care for crows yet. Remember visiting crow.net a year or so back. Nice website. Im in Germany, so don't have much to add concerning rehabbers and faciities for crows.

http://www.crows.net

This link to a .pdf has refernces at the end of the article.

http://www.savethecrows.org/toendtheatrocity.pdf

http://birding.about.com/od/birdscro...bout_Crows.htm

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAbou...ican_Crow.html

http://www.stumbleupon.com/tag/crows-net/

Crow food:

http://www.crows.net/food.html

Here's also a link to a guy with a similar crow problem, on May 29th: (it is about an injured crow, not porn).
http://www.veganporn.com/1052282488.html

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more crow websites and info


http://www.shades-of-night.com/aviary/birdpet.html

http://www.shades-of-night.com/aviary/where.html

http://www.shades-of-night.com/aviary/breeders.html

http://umn.edu/~devo0028/

Help! I found an orphan crow and I don't know what to do!
(A FAQ)

http://www.shades-of-night.com/aviary/faq.html
Quote:
Infancy
1/4 cup of cooked oatmeal
one hard boiled egg (use just the yolk)
1 teaspoon of evaporated milk
1 tablespoon of applesauce
blend it all together until about the same consistency as the applesauce

alternate
1 teaspoon Kay-T infant formula
1 teaspoon of baby beef
add water till applesauce consistency
note: a lot of rehabbers that I have talked with don't agree with the Kay-T for "meat eaters" (my nickname for them) but they seem to do well with it and the Kay-T has all the vitamins they need in it. Also note: this diet is more expensive. A growing crow can just about eat a can of Kay-T a week and it is about 6 dollars a can and then a jar of baby beef a day adds up to about 12 dollars a week. I guess if you are doing only one bird that it would be okay.
and some more:

CorvidLove
web community

http://community.livejournal.com/corvidlove
Quote:
for Seattle corvidophiles

hydrolagus (copied from the Seattle Audubon newsletter)
In the Company of Crows and Ravens
John Marzluff, Professor, UW, Speaker

Thursday, Feb. 15, 2007 6:30 PM
Center for Urban Horticulture

Join us for a lecture about crows, ravens, and people by John Marzluff, author and professor of Wildlife Science at the University of Washington. He'll speak about the natural history, taxonomy, tool use, communication, and human interaction of these bold, boisterous, adaptable and inspirational birds.
Doors open at 6:30 PM with Nature Shop selections and displays. ( Directions )
Free and open to the public!

(comment on this)
Friday, January 26th, 2007
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Posted 4th June 2007, 03:58 PM
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Just got done helping a friend with some baby crows. They eat Eukanuba dog food (dry) soaked in water till real soft, hard boiled eggs cut up and a few canned chopped tomatoes. They do great on this diet. They open their mouth, you poke some in and they swallow. If he is really young, he will want feeding every couple of hours. Get him to a rehabber if you can.

The heating pad is a must. If he gets cold he won't eat. Warm him up well before feeding.

Thank you for caring for this little crow. They are charming little guys in their way.

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Posted 4th June 2007, 04:01 PM
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Thanks a bunch guys. I just got back from the store, where I picked up some pedialyte, puppy chow, eggs, and liver.

I spoke with a representative from PAWS on the phone while I was in the store, and was really shocked to find that once again they really didn't seem to care a whole lot about the situation. The girl on the phone was extremely nonchalant, and basically told me that yeah, I could bring in the crow but there was no guarauntee of what will happen to him. She advised against even hydrating the bird, even after I mentioned that I would be unable to bring him in until late tonight or tomorrow (the shelter is a decent drive and my transportation just went back to the office). After trying to explain the situation, I just said that I would talk to my significant other and discuss what I should do. She let it go as basically "ok, good luck with that" and didn't press the topic further, which is such a maddening attitude.

Anyways, after that, I think that the only thing I can do right now would be to keep him warm and try to get him to take in some pedialyte. If that goes well, I will cook him up a high-protein meal based off of the recipes you guys provided (and the one I found earlier). I also want to clean his wounds to make sure they don't get infected.

I suppose after that, the only thing is to wait and see how he does? I'm really worried about him, and I'm annoyed that I can't seem to find a place around this area that actually gives birds the same respect that other creatures get. I'm half tempted to go back to school and do it myself. I'm beginning to think that I shouldn't have switched from medicine to computer science

Anyways, thanks so much for the links and the advice. I will keep you updated on his status as the day goes on.
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Ryiinn, don't know much about crows but want you to know he'll be in my thoughts and prayers. I dearly love my local crow family.
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Thank you so much Maggie I really appreciate that.

Do you guys have any idea how long I should wait before cleaning up this little guy's cuts? He's really filthy and I would love to clean him up and treat his cuts but I also don't want to shock him too much. I've gotten him to drink about a teaspoon of water (not much but a start), so I don't want to do anything that would make things worse.
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I'm sorry about the reaction you got from PAWS. I suspect that part of the reaction is due to the time of year with lots of new arrivals and a ton of calls. I'm not saying that it's ok but I do understand the feeling of being overwhelmed.
Does it look like he has cuts or does it look more like puncture wounds?
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Posted 4th June 2007, 05:23 PM
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Hi Charis,

I inspected his wings again, and the wounded one appears to have a deeper, yet still superficial cut on the surface. The entire bottom portion of the wing is bruised and bleeding. I don't see any protruding bone, so I can't tell if the wing is broken or not. He's able to move it a bit, and has been perking up slightly since I got some pedialyte into him. He hopped onto the side of his box and is perched there listlessly.

I've concocted a mixture of the puppy chow, eggs, bird egg supplement, and a bit of liver. It must taste as noxious as it smells because he'll get it in his mouth and then use his really long tongue to try to push every blob of it out...lol. I don't think he likes my cooking very much
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The liver is probably the culprit in the concoction. If he's even had liver before, it likely wasn't cooked.
Is he pooping at all?
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