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Posted 14th June 2007, 04:13 PM
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Do feral pigeons have predators?


Aside from man and the by products thereof; do feral pigeons have any natural predators?

I was having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day and this topic came up. I personally couldn't think of any.


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The main predator of pigeons is hawks. Of course a sick or injured bird that is grounded is in danger from cats and dogs. Owls also will kill a pigeon during the night. As will a possum and a weasel. Baby pigeons and pigeon eggs are in danger from some types of snakes. So, yes, I guess they have a few natural predators.
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Raccoons are also pigeon predators. They're the main reason you need at least 1/4" hardware cloth around their outside cages. A raccoon can tear off a pigeon's wing or leg by simply reaching through wire.

Rats, too.
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Raccoons are also pigeon predators. They're the main reason you need at least 1/4" hardware cloth around their outside cages. A raccoon can tear off a pigeon's wing or leg by simply reaching through wire.

Rats, too.
Yep, forgot about those two...............
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Crows too. We have wild pigeons living in our soffits and I see the crows fly right in after young birds and eggs. I don't think they go for the adults but definitely eggs and babies. That's how I ended up with my baby Torque. I think he was a failed crow attack and he fell into my patio when he was little.
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Rats will kill pigeons, though they are usually after the feed in a 'pigeon house'. I guess it would be the young, but I can imagine that rats would kill a disabled pigeon particularly if the bird was startled and attempted to peck or wingslap.

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Rats will kill pigeons, though they are usually after the feed in a 'pigeon house'. I guess it would be the young, but I can imagine that rats would kill a disabled pigeon particularly if the bird was startled and attempted to peck or wingslap.

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Rats will take the head right off a pigeon. duck or chicken in the middle of the night when it is dark. They work as a pack.
Rats will also go after caged birds left in cages outside during the day. Last summer our Audobon Wild life care Center had all of the mentioned happen. One night alone more than a dozen ready to release ducks and crows were beheaded and partically eaten. It was heartbreaking.
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I live in a large city and was surprised to find we have a huge hawk, owl, and Peregrine falcon population that hunts our ferals.
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I live in a very rural area and at one time or another have had pigeons eaten by just about everything. Untill I covered my flightpen with 1/4 inch mesh my biggest problem was snakes. I removed 13 eastern rat snakes over 5 foot long, numerous smaller ones, 2 rattlesnakes, and one or two that I never did identify. This was in one year. I have also caught in live traps, racoons, skunks, opposums, a Siberian Husky, rats, Owls, 1 young bobcat, and several mink. I have sighted but never caught a full grown cougar (Need a bigger trap!). I say all this to tell you that EVRYTHING eats pigeon. Before anybody gets excited or upset over all this stuff let me expain that I released evrything alive except one rattlesnake that I slammed the door on. My birds are housed within a few feet of a national forest, so I have to build with an eye to the varmits. It is sort of fun to see what will show up next.
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Almost everything can attack a pigeon at one stage. I have had rat problems, snake problems, ants problem & dont forget many disease problems too
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I removed 13 eastern rat snakes over 5 foot long, numerous smaller ones, 2 rattlesnakes, and one or two that I never did identify. This was in one year. I have also caught in live traps, racoons, skunks, opposums, a Siberian Husky, rats, Owls, 1 young bobcat, and several mink. I have sighted but never caught a full grown cougar (Need a bigger trap!). I say all this to tell you that EVRYTHING eats pigeon. Before anybody gets excited or upset over all this stuff let me expain that I released evrything alive except one rattlesnake that I slammed the door on. My birds are housed within a few feet of a national forest, so I have to build with an eye to the varmits. It is sort of fun to see what will show up next.
Maybe your snakes were cottonmouths or copperheads -- nice and sneaky!

Definitely need some bigger "Hav-a-hearts". That's one big kitty!

Pigeons are sort of like prairie dogs. They're on everyone's menu if they can catch 'em
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Seagull will also take pigeon when they can. About the only defense pigeons have is their explosive, powerful flight!
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....and last but not least the domestic or wild cat, they seem to becoming quite a nuisance.... wherever irresponsible humans populate.

I think this thread has exposed every single reason why 1/4 hardware cloth is such a necessity, wherever openings exist. So much grief and heartache can be avoided by this wonderful invention.
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