Feather Pulling

[re lee]

In most cases cocicidiosic Will not thrive in warm weather. Lofts well light and warm dry conditions. You will not see it much at all. Birds that have had salamenla will carry it. You will have a bird come down with it some times. If you do treatments do you do not over terat the birds. I just treat befor breeding season. THen If I have a bird which is not very often. I treat just the bird. Clean unsoiled grain. And water. And you have less problems. If you have a bird that comes down with sickness often I would not keep the bird. As it will spread sickness. But a bird that just showed up down. You treat . I still say Never over med the birds. Use meds as a preventive then isolated cases. Have you removed your perches. To reduce flying of your indian fans.

[upcd]

The Indain Fantails don't seem to fly over 2 to 3 feet to thier boxes. I left higher perches for rollers and westies. Should I keep the fans in the breeding coop or allow into the larger flight cage? When out there they just walk around and bath. The fans haven't gone on the higher perches yet. We are warm to hot out here. So I was wondering if you feed birds greens will thier dropping show a color change to green. Or has bird got something? Thank you, re lee

[re lee]

Greens can change the dropping and if they eat plenty yes. Is the dropping loss. Stop the greens. As a rule I have never fed greens to my birds All the years I have raised pigeons. Yes my homers in the past would sometimes hit the ground for a little. But I have allways fed feed. And gave grit minerals vits, And such BUT never greens. Now some people like to and some do not. Are your crowded or do they have good room. Have you been having health problems. Or have you giving meds often. Have the birds been wormed. Greens is a good way for picking up worms. depends on type of greens. Your birds that fly will scatter the shavings some depends on how many in the loft. It will go to the corners you can respread it. Breeds are best kept in same type per loft divider and such. Gives better management of the different types. How many birds do you have and what is the loft size.

[upcd]

Sometime wondering jew grows under the fence and they like to eat it.
I have 2 breeding coops 4 x 10 ft. each. 12 pairs in each. Total 24 pairs x 2 =48 birds.
They have a daytime flight that is 20 x 30 ft. 8 prs. Indains Fantails, 8 prs. westies, 8 prs. rollers.
2 young bird cages 3 x4 ft. 8 Individaul cages 2 x 3 ft. for mating or illness.
They are fed 17% popcorn mix.Also pigeon grit Which is many types of grit. they get a callicum block.

[upcd]

At begin of breeding season. Do you worm more than once a year?

[re lee]

Is the flight on or off the ground. What is its floor

[upcd]

in fllight is 95% concert and 5% dirt.

[re lee]

The dirt can harbor desease I would say you might at least put about a 2 inche sand base there. and rake it out periodicly. And it will also help the birds stay cleaner.

[upcd]

Monday, I'll go get some sand to cover the dirt area. What can you put in the bath water so they don't get bugs. I powder and spray them but they bath. And the bugs come back. It is like a weekly habit.

[re lee]

Borax in the bath water. But you can dip them In malithion Dip pull the bath water First. use a five gal, bucket. About 3 gall of warm water. NOT hot just warm. Use 1 teaspoon to a gal. so 3 teaspoons. Strir you will notice the water will get just a little milky look to it. Then hold the bird open the wing up and together. Lower the bird into the dip. At an angle holdin it by the wings and chest head area. Lower it to just to where ther the head is almost at the dip. Then pullit back out. slow to allow dripping. And start with another bird. This works very well on a good kill of mites lice feather flies ECT. I started this after a brother inlaw In the south. Louisiana. Was told by the local flyers there that they use this method. ITS much faster then dusting You can dip almost say 10 birds befor you can dust just 1. AND it gets a good kill . And no real health problems to the birds. AND with a good kill and seems like eggs are killed to. You do not have to dip very often at all. I tried it. And now its been about 8 months AM and just getting where I need to dip agin. Let your birds dry good Takes a while Because the warm water lets the featheres soak in the dip better. And the birds seem to look shineyer after they dry. Then hold your bathes for about a week after you dip. . DO not let the birds head under the dip

[upcd]

Guess they need to lay off the bathing for a short time to make sure all those bugs are dead. So I'll deal with the bugs on monday and on tesuday deal with sanding the coop. For a quick fix I'll use saw dust til I get the sand.

[upcd]

Got a 5 gallon bucket. Put 3 gallons of water and 3 tsp of dip. Mixed until milky. Then caught in each pigeion and dip thier body in lukewarm mixture. And those nasty flies went running for the head. Where they got squashed. So after i did everybody it looked like I had a copp of wet hen. Hope they enjoyed thier warm bath. I know the bugs didn't. HA HA

[re lee]

You will notice tommrow that the birds shine a little better. And you should get a good hard kill on the parasites. mites lice feather flys.

[upcd]

at 10:00am and saw a Fly crawl across a bird at 6:00pm. Do I wait or redip?

[re lee]

Might wait. Did you have alot of feather flies on the birds. Most often the dip will get a full kill. Now if some got on the birds after. I would still wait To see how it goes