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26th February 2009, 08:42 PM
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Frill or German Owl?Is this bird a frill or german owl? It was given to me as a german owl, but I've been having second thoughts...
She's not holding her tail too well, I'll get better pics tomorrow.  
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26th February 2009, 10:22 PM
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Now I could very well be wrong because I too was just asking about these birds recently myself. But I think that is a classic frill?? Maybe old classic frill?? I think the difference was the size of the beak? I have two of these as well plus two German Owls (I think) LOL!!
Here is a picture of both Attachment 11829 Attachment 11830 One thing I do remember is I was told both of mine are the types that have enough of a beak to feed their own young. Where abouts in Mass are you?? I grew up in Marion, Mass. Kind of in between the Cape and New Bedford. Last edited by moonshadow13; 7th June 2009 at 10:19 AM.
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27th February 2009, 05:09 AM
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thats an old classic frill or what some people call a satinette ,if you want one for referance just type satinette into google and click on images and you will see for yourself
 http://images.google.com/images?gbv=...=Search+Images
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27th February 2009, 10:12 AM
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You mean I was right? WOW!
Now are the ones with no beak still called a satinette? The two I have are nest mates so I want to make sure that if I purchase a couple more to breed with I get the ones who actually have a face LOL. Now the picture of my other guy with the brown saddle, I thought he was a German Owl but someone else suggested he might be a Dutch turbit??
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27th February 2009, 11:48 AM
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Yes, it's a Satinette (Old Style Frill). 'Satinette' is actually the name of the pattern, which is the white body with colored wings and tail. The other basic pattern of Oriental Frills is 'Blondinette', which has a dark head and color all throughout the body. Both Satinette and Blondinette can be further broken down into the different colors (Bluette, Silverette, Sulphurette, etc.)
The coloring/patterns goes for ALL Oriental Frills, both Old Style/Classic AND the modern show ones with no beak.
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27th February 2009, 11:51 AM
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Also, Moonshadow, the first bird you pictured looks a lot like a Satinette, but it's tail isn't colored and the crest is big so...I guess it's a OGO. Looks a bit like a cross if you ask me
 And I still think the second bird is an Old Dutch Turbit, since they are all saddles like that and have smaller crests than OGO's.
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27th February 2009, 11:55 AM
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Another thought that just popped into my head, an easy way to tell if they are Oriental Frills are not, is by looking at the tail. Old German Owls, Turbits, and Satinettes all look fairly similar especially with the saddles going on....but....Frills will have their famous spot tails. A colored tail with a washed out spot on the feathers. Plus almost all of them you see have lacing on the wings, or washed out looking bars.
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27th February 2009, 12:38 PM
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), and the guy is going to breed some for us .... we hope to end up with 2 pair.
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27th February 2009, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
 A lot of people just refer to them all as Satinettes because that's probably the most common coloration of them. You don't see a whole lot of the Blondinettes around.
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27th February 2009, 01:05 PM
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#11
27th February 2009, 04:09 PM
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OK, think I got it
 .Mapigeonchick (top pic) has a Satinette because it has color on the tail? I have (left pic) an Old German Owl no color on the tail and (right pic) a German Owl or Dutch Turbit. I just want to be 100% on this so if I ever end up selling their offspring I don't unintentionally mislead someone.
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3rd March 2009, 08:44 PM
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Thanks to everyone for all your help! So I guess she's a frill or satinette. Other than the color in the tail, is there any way to distinguish a frill from a german owl?
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4th March 2009, 05:25 AM
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feathered feet
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4th March 2009, 12:59 PM
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Yep, feathered feet and german owls have more full crests (they're almost from eye to eye, where frills just have little tufts on the back of the head)
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