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Old 13th September 2009, 05:48 PM
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Holy cow! They're called Mindians, and the breed has been recognized by the NPA. http://com3.runboard.com/barizonapigeonfanciers.f7.t12
Nevermind about my experiment then I want some of these!
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Old 13th September 2009, 05:58 PM
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Holy cow! They're called Mindians, and the breed has been recognized by the NPA. http://com3.runboard.com/barizonapigeonfanciers.f7.t12
Nevermind about my experiment then I want some of these!
ummm me too!..they would be great with my figs....little fantail pigeons! how cool...
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Old 13th September 2009, 06:15 PM
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Man that was a quick response!!! I'll keep in touch.
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Man that was a quick response!!! I'll keep in touch.
when you race pigeons you have to be quick lol
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Not a whole big size difference, but they are cool. It's funny how you just thought of it and it pops right up.

Well......I got a diiferent challenge for ya; see if you can breed some white mookees. lol
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I've heard a lot of people say they wished they could make actual fantailed doves, as in ringneck doves with fanned tails. Especially those who do the wedding releases and whatnot, who would like something as gorgeous as a fantail in a display cage, but complain that the size of them is just a tad too big.
So I was thinking yesterday, what if you were to put some of the smallest fantails you can find (I prefer Indians, but it seems people are wanting to make them bigger!), with figs? With some careful breeding, how easily do you think it could be done? What I imagine in my head, is like a tiny Satinette with a fanned tail Looks very pretty in my head, with that cute zipper frill and all.

Wouldn't that be cool?
I gues you haven't heard, but there is a relatively new class of fantails called the "Mindian" which stands for mini=indian. severa; peop;e are working on its development.
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Or, you know what could be the coolest bird ever!!! A bird with the feathers on it's feet, a fanned tail, one of those thingies on the back of thier head like mookees, a zipper frill, and a curly back. Now that bird would be stocked. lol
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Well, all you'd need are some indian fantails, some satinettes, and some frillbacks That would be neat.
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Well, all you'd need are some indian fantails, some satinettes, and some frillbacks That would be neat.
And about 15-20 years....
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Well, if people have the time they could do it!
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got a bit of info on the mindians, they are just so new right now there are only project birds maybe availible, they are half the size of the regular Indian fan, they are still working on perfecting them. I do not have alot of room for a big breedig project, but it may be fun to have a pair in the furture. here is what the email said.


Hi Michelle

Ahh, kind of a weird story but I was raising Indian Fantails, for years,
and folks kept commenting on how large they had gotten over the years and I
felt the same way.

Then one day I saved a frozen youngster, hand fed him and he matured as a
very small Indian. Then I heard that another breeder in Northern California
was breeding for smaller Indians, the opposite of what all the other
breeders are doing, they want 20 ounce plus birds for exhibiting.

Anyway, I contacted this fellow and found out that were also a couple other
breeders downsizing Indians so I contacted them all and we agreed to bring
our birds to the Pageant, introduce them as Mindian Fantails, meet and
start a Mindian Fantails club which I have done.

We now have a recognized breed club and have had our Standard recognized by
the NPA, so we are on our way.

Now to the birds themselves. We have crossed small Indians with American
Fantails, Russian Tumblers like the Tagenrogs and Kazaner's, to stabilize the
small size.
We have been working on developing a 10 ounce miniature version of the
Indian Fantail with a height of 7 inches.

Our efforts have resulted in two different types of Mindians, due to the
Russian Tumblers, a delicate and a "bull" version, both being accepted. The
main focus now is to eliminate neck shaking, achieve a 3/4 wrap on the tail
and keep the long muffs.

We have a great website with tons of info and pictures. I am on there as
"larryfantail". the website
is:_http://com2.runboard.com/bminiatureindianfantailproject_ (http://com2.runboard.com/bminiatureindianfantailproject)

As for availability, we are keeping the "real" Mindians for breeding stock
and exhibiting as there are not very many around even though there about
twenty breeders now, mostly on the West Coast. What is available are
"project" birds, those used to create the Mindians which we have just started
breeding to each other, so the project birds can be given to a breeder who
wants to spend a year developing Mindians for their own breeding program.

Go to the website and check out the pictures, they are looking good after
just five years of developing through these cross breedings.

Let me know what questions you may have.
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Good info, but like you, I have not the time or space for a project. Maybe in five years I can get some mindians but for now, I'll stick to my whites.

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realy it is nice to have indian fantails ... i have few fantails
they look wonderful ...
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aren't they lovely? I guess if I want them in New Zealand I have to breed them myself (we have the world's most draconian import laws, for good reasons but difficult to live with sometimes)
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Old 21st September 2009, 05:37 PM
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aren't they lovely? I guess if I want them in New Zealand I have to breed them myself (we have the world's most draconian import laws, for good reasons but difficult to live with sometimes)
Start your own project, go to the website and post questions. If you can find the right project birds then you are on your way. You will also have the only mini in New Zealand. Something to think about.

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