9 Points Loft is #1 at the Winners Cup

[learning]

Originally Posted by Big T

Dan, if I didn't know better, you have become the son Warren didn't know he had. That man shore can brag about you. LOL

Congrads, you earned it. We all read your posts and watched you grow in knowledge and experience. As your mentor Warren has every right to brag. I wish you both success and joy.

God Bless,
Tony

Thank you Tony. Warren has been everything someone could want and more in a mentor. His knowledge and genuine interest in seeing me succeed has been a much needed source of confidence and security for me as I have struggled, just like everyone else, in learning the ropes of this sport. I have tried very hard to keep this a two way street and hopefully he has gained or will gain as much or more from our relationship as I have.

I can't say enough positive things about Warren and I am pretty sure there are a lot more people out there that have gained from his guidance.

Dan

[SmithFamilyLoft]

Ahh....Shucks !!!

I guess I am proud of the young Jedi !

Since he is a school teacher, he is teachable. Not, everyone is. Some become "Experts" inside a short period of time, and then want to give you lessons. Had some of them in our club this last year. They typically burn out real quick, since they normally don't stick to anything for real long.

Dan here, will outlive me, and at some point, out fly me. It's not a matter of "IF" but "When". He already has more skill and understanding, then many fanciers with many more years under their belts. You just wait and see. It just not better be this year, in the Winners Cup !!!!!

[learning]

Thanks Warren, I am truly flattered.

If, by some miracle, I do manage to do well at the Winners Cup this year it is only because of the great advice and incredible birds I obtained from him. All I did was put them together and let nature take its course.

Dan

[Big T]

Do you two need a room, PLEASE, all this sucking up is making me sick!!!! LOL
Ya'll stop talking and let your birds do it for you.

Dan, I'm sorry but I am a big fan of Ace's and Warren's Wife's birds.

Good Luck and best wishes,
Tony

[learning]

Originally Posted by Big T

Do you two need a room, PLEASE, all this sucking up is making me sick!!!! LOL
Ya'll stop talking and let your birds do it for you.

Dan, I'm sorry but I am a big fan of Ace's and Warren's Wife's birds.

Good Luck and best wishes,
Tony

It's only sucking up if it isn't true!

Dan

[mr squeaks]

Originally Posted by Big T

Do you two need a room, PLEASE, all this sucking up is making me sick!!!! LOL
Ya'll stop talking and let your birds do it for you.

Dan, I'm sorry but I am a big fan of Ace's and Warren's Wife's birds.

Good Luck and best wishes,
Tony

ROFL, Tony!!

All the sucking up is lots of fun...for me, that is...could they wait awhile before getting a room??

ALL THE BEST TO YOU RACERS!!

Shi

...and Mr. Squeaks, whose racing career was cut tragically short by a badly broken wing. I just KNOW, with his attitude, he would have been a WINNER!

[Big T]

Originally Posted by learning

It's only sucking up if it isn't true!

Dan

Good point, and you are right. It is true, but also a little funny.

Keep flying,
Tony

[SmithFamilyLoft]

Wanted to share this news report I got today. There was a shipment of birds which had gotten lost by the Post Office and the poor birds had taken a major detour.

Good news is all worked out OK, and Bill was on the scene giving them expert care !


Greetings to all;

Its with great pleasure I bring you a happy ending to the 7 birds shipped to us spending 5 days in the box. On arrival at the post office early Monday morning to retrieve the birds, I opened the box in front of the Postal people so they could witness a possible problem. On opening the box, everyone was amazed the birds were alive and absolutely looking great.
Postal people cant tell the difference between ' looking great' and just " alive ". But there was not a dry eye in the group, the body weight was there, there was no emaciated bird and no bile.................go figure?

On taking the birds out to my vehicle, I had already prepared a whole milk/honey solution and forced each bird on the spot with my plunger before heading home. I let the owner know the situation and at first he was skeptical (who wouldn't be?) I placed the birds in
a separate section with feed and water and they immediately, yes immediately flew out to the landing board into the sun and basked as if nothing was even detrimental....wow.

Luckily, the owner doesn't have to pay up front entry fees, just a perch, so if there is any damage unseen to the naked eye, we will see when training begins. But I will keep close track and let you all know down the road how these entries faire against the rest of the pack.
We could be surprised........

We soon will be taking down the temporary aviaries. At that time we will activate the Cup
Internet Camera. This is a good time for you to "dial in" getting your computers to view the loft and birds flying, way ahead of race time. The cams wont be on each day, but we will
alert you as to when they will be on a day a head of time. Thanks for your support this year, a year whereby many lofts are not running to full capacity. Hopefully, things will settle
down with the economy........................that is yet to be seen.

We are just about finished sending birds out for the year. Just a few more to complete out
our San Diego entries and we are done. At this time we would like to pay tribute to a
relatively new one loft racer who stormed onto the scene last year..........Bill Tadlock.
Mr. Tadlock has sent many many pigeons out to many races this year. With some people cutting back, I know that many managers are appreciative of Bills entries. We also are
appreciative to many of you who year in and year out send teams and multiple teams.
We don't want to overlook those breeders who are responsible for the success of one loft racing
here in the USA.

Thanks again , we will keep you posted.

Bill Hatcher

[[MN]eXist^_^]

Wow must b a really great race like you have said I myself sent to some races haven't hurred noffin at all!! Again good luck yallz.

[SmithFamilyLoft]

OK Bill,

Not sure why "we" should share some of our best "secrets" with the world at large, as someday some of my competitors may find this post. But, in the interest of showing our readers here at Pigeon Talk why the WINNERS CUP is setting the gold standard in terms of care and nutrition for the Champions at the Winners Cup One Loft Race, I will share your "secrets". I know first hand how fantastic my birds looked when they were returned from the Cup last year, so I know you are doing something extra special in terms of their care, that they have not gotten at other events. Perhaps in order to retain more of the perch fee's for themselves ? I know I appreciate all that you do in order to get and keep the birds in outstanding health, so that on race days, the best bred birds can do their best.

Thank you for sharing.

Warren


Aquamax 400----------Dont breed without it !!

Hi Warren;

Just a short note on this great Purina product. With high dollars spent by Purina on research, I have been advocating the use of Aquamax 500 for a long time for the breeding
pen, fed to the breeders in a separate cup.
This year, suddenly it became difficult to get, the 500. 500 denotes the size of this super
black pellet. Since they only had the '400' size in stock, I opted for that. Its just a tad lower in protein, but the huge difference was the size of this amazing pellet. Its about the size of and looks like Rape seed. When you take it in hand, you can feel the omega 3 just oozing out of it, but yet its dry.......
The birds tell the real story here. The pellet is more efficient to feed with less spillage and waste. As for the birds? Well, they show me that they much prefer this size to the 500 and use it freely on the babies in particular during the first 3 weeks of growth.

I have many pigeon fanciers who have now turned to this pellet only to email me/call me and tell me that they are 'hooked' on the pellet. Why? They realized that the overall all optimum
performance of their team of birds greatly improved. Bill Nesler in California won 21k down at the Holiday Cup in San Diego with two in the top 10 drop and winning the average
speed for 3 races there. He cites the use of Aquamax for his victory combined with super
bred bloodlines of course. But Bill only began using aquamax after I moved from California to Oklahoma. He had seen the results of it when we teamed up to win Two Triple Crowns
in a row in San Diego.

Another notable fancier who swears by it is George in Texas known as APC loft. Just look at his wins last year........George goes so far as to grind it into a powder and use it that way on the birds feed.......he also is a believer in spirulina.

Ok for now Warren, just keeping this short so that your readers can make improvements to
their own crop of Ybs in the future....

In the sport,

Bill Hatcher

[spirit wings]

oh boy! I just so happen to have a purina dealer here.... I don't count though as Im not competing, always looking for what may be a good thing for my birds. thanks for sharing.

[kalapati]

Originally Posted by SmithFamilyLoft

OK Bill,

Not sure why "we" should share some of our best "secrets" with the world at large, as someday some of my competitors may find this post. But, in the interest of showing our readers here at Pigeon Talk why the WINNERS CUP is setting the gold standard in terms of care and nutrition for the Champions at the Winners Cup One Loft Race, I will share your "secrets". I know first hand how fantastic my birds looked when they were returned from the Cup last year, so I know you are doing something extra special in terms of their care, that they have not gotten at other events. Perhaps in order to retain more of the perch fee's for themselves ? I know I appreciate all that you do in order to get and keep the birds in outstanding health, so that on race days, the best bred birds can do their best.

Thank you for sharing.

Warren

thanks for sharing warren!

and to make things easier finding a supplier close to your place here's a locator link. just enter your zipcode. i found one about 5 miles from my place.

http://aquamax.purinamills.com/


kalapati
San Diego
http://bluebarloft.from-ca.com:81/Jview.htm

[fastpitch dad]

Did I read that correctly...45% protein-16% fat-3% fiber

[[MN]eXist^_^]

Can I feed this to my ybs right now? Or just the Breeders?

[learning]

Originally Posted by fastpitch dad

Did I read that correctly...45% protein-16% fat-3% fiber

Yep, you read it right. The birds will eat it as needed and mine seem to love it. I have been using this product all year in the breeding pen and the babies have had access to it from day one. I have been thrilled with the results.

The one drawback...every time I open the container that has the aquamax in it, the loft smells like a fish market the rest of the day!

Dan