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Old 22nd March 2009, 06:47 AM
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Just thought I would open up a thread for updates from those who have what was to be my race team this year. Here is where you can leave word of their accomplishments and failures. I have high hopes for these little champions of the skies and miss them in many ways.

Without these little feathered freinds in my life there is a void I just can't fill. A few days ago I went fishing under a bridge spanning one of the rivers that feeds the great lake Okeechobee. I didn't catch many fish. I think that was because instead of watching my bobber I was watching the resident pigeons living under the bridge. Don't leave me with this aching in my heart, throw the old boy a bone and keep him posted here.

Are the birds settled? Are they all well? Do you have your favorite???

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Old 22nd March 2009, 09:15 AM
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Hey Ace

The three pair you sent me are doing great. The younger pair is still not interested in laying. The two older pairs will be hatching next week. They will be flying in ABQ. I might send one with my group I am sending to Grand Junction. I will give the young ones another week and then start trying new things. They look great, just the change I think. Let me know if they raised a round or were sitting. They may just be confused with the cycle. I have another young hen, just now showing interest. May be because I did not have lights and now their internal clock is driving them.

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Old 22nd March 2009, 10:32 AM
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The six you sent here are doing just fine. I've been trap training them and just this morning, I put the first and second round together, so now the 45 birds I have, have access to the whole front of the loft. 80 perches and 32 nest boxes. They're loving life.
I'm a little behind on getting the birds out of the loft. Between training OB's (we have our first race this coming week end) and spending time down in NC, I just can't get it all done. I try to go visit my grandmother at least once a week and she's so slow getting in and out of cars, stores, etc........instead of being here when we have nice weather, I'm down there and when it rains......I stay at home...........sort of backwards from the way it should work, but what can ya do?
Anyway, that's about it for now. I'll be sure to keep ya updated.
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Old 22nd March 2009, 03:47 PM
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Thank you both for the updates.

Randy,

Yes, the young pair did raise a round and had just layed before I shipped them to you. The two young are combine auction birds up in Michigan. They will be flying a 345 mile auction race for a good flyer named Lee Scholtz (he won the N section auction race last year).

Renee,

Don't fret non!!
It'll all come together just in time for the season. I have faith in both you and the birds.

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Old 23rd March 2009, 07:21 AM
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Hi Mark
I have 4 of the 5 you sent me
When I let all my young birds out for thier first time this weekend one got hit by a car
unfortunately it was one of the ones you sent me
the rest are doing great though
healthy... eating good.... and loving the sun that finally has come out for a few days in a row here
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Ed - I'm sorry to hear that one got hit by a car....
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Old 23rd March 2009, 01:13 PM
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Hi Mark
I have 4 of the 5 you sent me
When I let all my young birds out for thier first time this weekend one got hit by a car
unfortunately it was one of the ones you sent me
the rest are doing great though
healthy... eating good.... and loving the sun that finally has come out for a few days in a row here
Sorry to hear that! I even hate to ask but I have to....what is the band # of the bird that got hit?

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Old 23rd March 2009, 04:55 PM
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when all the birds trapped after it happened I went RIGHT in with my two training crates and started gathering birds and writing down numbers that way I knew who it was
I knew it was one of yours before I even did that cause I RAN over to where he got hit and could see the yellow band
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Old 23rd March 2009, 07:05 PM
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Ed,

I do not have my records down here with me but am I right in saying 7708 was the dark check? That was out of long distance stock from Top Gun Loft. Southwing has a DCSPLWF who is the nest mate to that bird.

We all know how it feels to loose birds. Usually it's not to a car but anything can and will happen when you let them out to fly. This was just one of many losses in what we hope is many years of flying for you.

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Old 23rd March 2009, 07:19 PM
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StoN3d and Ace, I'm sorry for the loss, I know it comes with having birds but it still suxs!!!

Ace, get settled and the loft biult, you know you need birds in your life.
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hmmm
I coulda sworn it was 7708
Ill recheck my records when I get home from work today
Im on my way there now
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We got babies. Four babies hatched out today the 2nd. They are earmarked to fly with Steve Guzman in Albuquerque with a team of my birds. they will most likely be bonded to fly in the Futurity at the 300 mile station. Steve is a fierce competitor who loves flying young birds. Plans are for these four to go the distance. I will keep you all posted with band numbers and such. The next round will most likely stay with me to test with a small team I will be flying.

As for the third pair they have not laid yet. The cock is going through a tail molt. My thoughts are the change in Latitude put him in a weird place. He still looks good and is healthy, just not interested in the hen. I am going to be gone this weekend, but when I get back I will try separating them again. I am also going to build a box and put in the top corner where he is perching. Maybe this will get him going. If this does not work, I might put him on a new hen and her on a new cock and see what happens. I may also separate them for a week or so and see if this works.

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Old 3rd April 2009, 10:18 AM
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Hey Randy,

I really hope you can get some young out of that third pair. This is a pairing I am expecting big things from.

The cock is "Super Schellins" A-28046. He is a cross between an imported Schellins and a H.V.R.. If I had not missed clocking out one week last year this bird would have made Ace pigeon.

The hen KONA-254 is a cross between Warren's hen, York 836 a Janssen going back to the President and the Producer. Her sire is from Ken Munson's phenomenal Houben family. She was in the top 10 % three times last year including 4th place at 325 miles.

That would put these young at:

1/4 Schellins
1/4 H.V.R.
1/4 Janssen
1/4 Houben

Of corse we know no strain is pure, but this is what we have to go by.

I did produce one pair of young from them before shipping them to Randy. Those two are Combine auction birds back in Michigan and will be flying that race at 345 miles. The man fying them won that race last year!

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Old 3rd April 2009, 04:01 PM
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Shoot me the ped for the Janssen hen. I also have Charlotte my full Janssen who is also off the Producer. Want to see if it is the same producer. I have had great luck with the young birds off of her.

I would also like to get some young out of the pair. That is my objective when I get back Sunday.

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just wanted to add that I have two 1/2 ace 1/2 tourniers babys that have been hatched out today I dont race but cant wait to see what these babys can do the male of the pair is a male of got from ace and is a kona banded bird
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