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Posted 1st December 2010, 03:42 PM
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America's International Challenge - One Loft Race


any members here planning on joining this new OLR event next year? any thoughts you can share for i am interested to participate. if you click on the 2011 entries they have big names on their reservations list.

http://www.aicrace.com/











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Posted 1st December 2010, 03:49 PM
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I don't know much about the race but it's gonna be run by the guy who used to run the "Espo's East Coast Challenge - One Loft Race" and from what I've seen he had pretty good races when he was doing this race up in New Jersey. Now they built or are building a huge loft in the corner of a good size field down in SC. I was thinking of entering a one loft race and I'm thinking if I was to enter any I would send them to this one since it has all the big names in there. I feel if I'm gonna send birds out to try to prove them I wanna go against all the big boys.
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Posted 1st December 2010, 03:53 PM
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Plus I like that they have some of their payouts guaranteed.
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Posted 1st December 2010, 06:42 PM
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Man, looks like America's best has already signed up for 2011.
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Posted 1st December 2010, 09:37 PM
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The man than owns Sure Bet will have 10 birds, there will be 30 GFL birds there. And all the top guns are allready loaded. At $1000 a bird if every body pays they have 890 birds so far. WOW
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Posted 1st December 2010, 09:39 PM
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That is one big time race...$1000 per bird entry. To be competitive, you'd have to dish out $2000-3000 just to up your percentage. If you only pay for one bird, might as well donate the money instead. It's not for the poor man like myself.
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Posted 1st December 2010, 11:20 PM
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Frank runs a good race. at 1k a pop even the big guys might have a hard time buying this race. Nice loft going up. See Frank is building a larger version of his loft.
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Posted 2nd December 2010, 07:29 AM
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I'm just a nobody in the pigeon game but there are so many big names entering this race. I'm also thinking like Pigeon0446 would like to test my birds against the big names so will also send a team of 5 in March. Wishing all the Seabiscit pigeons GOOD LUCK in this one!!
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Posted 2nd December 2010, 12:13 PM
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Good luck. You planning to activate all 5?
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The796 The796 is offline
Posted 2nd December 2010, 02:48 PM
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The way the one lofts has been losing birds this past year. I'll be lucky to have one out of the five to activate at the first race. Will see how it goes.
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Posted 2nd December 2010, 04:14 PM
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Let's see how they do first year before you jump in. New loft, new course, new to the area - anything can happen. Remember TOC how it was touted and hyped up? When I see testimonials like the ones published on their site - I get very nervous. They are guaranteed 100K 1st place, but we need to see what number of entries they are basing the rest of the payout i.e. what percentage cut they are taking. New lofts like the quality they are building costs big money. We also need to see who wins the first year. Too many alliances in this sport posing conflicts of interest.
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Posted 3rd December 2010, 07:51 AM
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I think they know this is their one shot to do things right but will see.
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Posted 3rd December 2010, 10:19 AM
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Right up front, I don't like the idea of having to buy my own birds back.The thing I didn't like about Frank's East Coast Challenge race, which I last participated in around 2006, was the fact that he had his son in law release the birds at some secret location, and then there was only a single day bird which won $32,000. Then that bird was quickly hidden away and no one was allowed to see the bird. When I voiced my concerns about lack of openness and transparency I was told.."If you don't like the way we conduct business then don't fly in this event"....I didn't think that having witnesses at the release site, or having some witnesses inspect the winning bird, was asking all that much. With that response, my partner didn't want to fly the East Coast Challenge again. I don't know if this event will have any more transparency or not. I will just wait and see if those 895 birds are shipped to the loft, or if those numbers are a bit of a stretch. Right now, all we really have is a slick web site, and a few endorsements from interested parties, who presumable will have birds there. I would want to see how this race develops over the next few years, before I would make any commitments.
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Posted 3rd December 2010, 11:05 AM
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Maybe the secret location was rite next to the winning bird's loft, and the other's were driven several hundred miles away and then released. Just kidding, but you never know.
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Posted 3rd December 2010, 11:13 AM
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The man than owns Sure Bet will have 10 birds, there will be 30 GFL birds there. And all the top guns are allready loaded. At $1000 a bird if every body pays they have 890 birds so far. WOW
Dave
I'm sure these top guns have been personally invited to send birds for free for purpose of getting others to participate in this event. Good marketing on their part but that's a hefty fee to pay for a race. Good luck to anyone here that participates!
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