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Old 12th December 2007, 12:52 PM
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I just finished my loft and have set the birds in with nesting boxes and bowls in place. My question is will they chose and defend a single box on their own or do you have to lock them in? They keep moving from box to box chasing each other around. The single cocks will call from a box but the single hens have no interest. So would penning them together get them to pair?
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Old 12th December 2007, 01:06 PM
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I just finished my loft and have set the birds in with nesting boxes and bowls in place. My question is will they chose and defend a single box on their own or do you have to lock them in? They keep moving from box to box chasing each other around. The single cocks will call from a box but the single hens have no interest. So would penning them together get them to pair?
Well without going back and looking (yea, I can be lazy ) how many birds are we talking about? Pairs that is. Number one, there should be an even number of birds. Not more hens than cocks and mainly, not more cocks than hens.
Are you concerned about who mates with who? If so, then you probably need to go about this in a different way. If you don't care, then eventually they will settle in. There's easier ways to mate them up, (for the birds anyway, more time consuming for you) but this way will work after a while.
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Old 12th December 2007, 01:13 PM
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Well I have a few odds and ends mixed with my homers but im only interested in my homers.

I currently have a pair on eggs (in a cage in the patio), but I have 3 cocks and 2 hens in the loft. I have one proven pair and am trying to make another out of the other hen. I chose the second cock at random. Both 04 birds. The single hen shows no interest in the single cocks or the boxes this is why I penned her with a cock. Thats how I used to pair them when I was a kid but that was about 7 years ago so im not sure how to go about this.

Do you have any better suggestions. Also the proven pair will not allow anyone else in the boxes. I have 5 boxes and they are around 16" wide.
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Old 12th December 2007, 01:40 PM
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Well I have a few odds and ends mixed with my homers but im only interested in my homers.

I currently have a pair on eggs (in a cage in the patio), but I have 3 cocks and 2 hens in the loft. I have one proven pair and am trying to make another out of the other hen. I chose the second cock at random. Both 04 birds. The single hen shows no interest in the single cocks or the boxes this is why I penned her with a cock. Thats how I used to pair them when I was a kid but that was about 7 years ago so im not sure how to go about this.

Do you have any better suggestions. Also the proven pair will not allow anyone else in the boxes. I have 5 boxes and they are around 16" wide.

You were a kid 7 years ago???? Sorry......just thought you were an "older" person.........anyway, that's got nothing to do with anything.....
Here's what I would do and is how I pair my birds every year. Most of mine are already mated pairs, but when I introduce a new pair, I go through this.
I would take the hens out of the loft. Leave ONLY the cocks that you have a hen for. If you've got an extra cock, you either need to take him out or in the next week or so, find a hen for him. NO unmated birds should EVER be in your breeding loft.
Pick the two boxes (or 3 if you leave the one cock) that you want them to use. Close up the other boxes. Take down the perches. Make it so that these guys either sleep in a box, on the floor or outside in the aviary. They WILL take a box and will work out between them who get which one. This may take a week or so and they may do a bit of fighting, but they WILL settle down.
Once they've taken a box, then you can introduce the hens, one at a time. We can through that at some point. I need to go cook some dinner right now. I"ll be on later and I'm sure others will have some input.
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Old 12th December 2007, 01:53 PM
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Thanks lovebirds, by the way you don't happen to have a white female on hand do you?
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Thanks lovebirds, by the way you don't happen to have a white female on hand do you?
Only got one white bird period and she's on my OB race team. Oh and by the way, I forgot to say, if you can, feed these cock birds in their box. Water isn't really necessary but the more things you can do to make them "own" a box, the better.
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Old 13th December 2007, 08:11 AM
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Old 14th December 2007, 08:01 PM
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let me give you another way of breeding if youre racing that might give you a little success.first,if you let the pairs breed any old way they want,this is not getting you to the winners circle anytime soon.you are racing,right?i would lock the birds you choose to put together up and breed with the purpose of breeding the pigeon you want to win with.put comparable birds together with some of the same good traits.2 birds with good traits will breed birds with those same good traits-hopefully. feed them and water them from the box,or let pairs out one at a time to eat and drink.lock up-repeat process until finished.give them light 24 hrs a day until they take,then return to natural light.if you dont have proven breeders yet,you must experiment with what you have and breed-breed-breed-race-race-race.you will get to a point where you have breeders that will breed diploma winners,and you will have flyers breeding diploma winners that might take a proven breeders place one day.this only happens in any winning loft thru work.as of 4 years ago when i took a hiatus from the sport-i had 4 proven pairs of breeders along with 5 widowhood cocks that were diploma winners.this came from 35 or 40 pigeons for stock from a very good flyer,breeding from them,flying them in races and letting the results make your desicions for you.i culled thousands of dollars to get those 4 pairs and 5 awesome flying cocks.also a piece of advice...a pedigree never won a race.paper dont fly.when you have birds in awesome shape and form,handle them in the dark before shipping night.you will learn what a pigeon should handle like,and this will carry over in the breeding loft later.just my .02.carry on,and i hope you are successful.you will be if you are persistant.wow,i hope i answered your question.can you tell im excited about getting back to my birds?
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