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31st January 2009, 08:31 PM
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cocks killing younsters hi folks one of my new cocks i bought for stock has killed 4 youngsters from diffrent pairs, iv removed him from the stock loft and isolated him. has any of you guys experinced this kind of thing before. im not having a good run of things of late so i could do with some advice.............
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31st January 2009, 08:37 PM
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Im not compleltey sure but I have heard of cock coming and killing others young, so I would think that it thinks that it is head cock, and it thinks it can do what it wants. good you isolated it though. since it has killed alot of young I don't htink it is good for breeding. I don't know hwat you should do with it now though. Just keep it seperated from the other pairs, and if you don't have fronts on the nesting boxes you should put those on. because you would think that the pair would defend there young at all costs. Just put nesting box fronts on and maybe it can go ack in. someone with more experince should come along and tell you what you should do.
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31st January 2009, 09:00 PM
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Is your loft over crowded? Plenty of nest boxes for everyone and does this new bird have unattached hens to choose from?
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1st February 2009, 05:46 AM
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Yes i received 2 cock birds from Warren and have had a problem with both of them killing YB's and even other cock birds. they are such good breeders I didnt want to get rid of them and have had to isolate them from the flock and even each other. Turns out a couple of their young have grown up to carry on this bad trait at other flyers lofts. Sometimes this happens and you have no choice but to give them their own space.
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1st February 2009, 07:22 AM
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Have you tried the bully band on these two birds? Might be worth a try.
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1st February 2009, 09:06 AM
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Renee, no i never tried the bully bands but they are fine in the individual pens. I have the room to accomodate them this way. Warren will probably end up with them back after this breeding season anyway. Yes they have killed adult cock birds, not sure if it was together or seperate as I found him on the floor with bad head wounds.
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1st February 2009, 11:27 AM
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It will help with babies to make obsticles/hiding places on the floor to protect them. Even a box with a very low top and small door the prevent the cock from getting in. They need a place to hide, I have one here that does the same thing. I use 5 gallon buckets in teh corners and put them close to the walls the babies get back there in the little space but the older birds don't go back there.
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1st February 2009, 06:43 PM
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thanks for the replys folks. i have him seperate with a hen and they are fine as soon as they have eggs il take the eggs out and float under a different pair this bird cost 700euros that about $900 so i dont wanna get rid of him. whats the bully band?
Last edited by loftys homers; 1st February 2009 at 06:56 PM.
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1st February 2009, 07:07 PM
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Very aggressive cocks can kill defenseless young baby birds. I think it is time to lock that bird. Bully band is just using a rubber band to tie the birds legs together (can still walk) so that when the bird fights it usually losses the fight because the bird is off-balance.
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1st February 2009, 08:41 PM
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Why would you want to breed them? Don't think I'd want young from them. Especially if they have had young that turned out the same way, as whitesnmore has mentioned.
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2nd February 2009, 04:20 AM
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The reason I breed the birds are because they are agressive and this trait is what makes them want to come home fast. Their young are very good flyers in the 100-250 range and they fill the gap I am missing on my other breeders. If the birds did not produce winners they would not be worth the extra effort each day it takes to keep them and the rest of the flock from being hurt. It is very easy to just "get rid of them", it is harder to work with a "troubled" bird but I reap the benefits!!
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3rd February 2009, 05:20 PM
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Yep....I told you Ken...they would be a pain in the rear.....some fanciers just can't deal with them. But, as you already know, that fierce territorial spirit, is what makes them mad to get home fast to see who might be on their perch, or in their spot. The downside, it's difficult to keep really "sissy" birds in the same loft with them ! 
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3rd February 2009, 07:35 PM
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