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Old 9th August 2008, 11:27 AM
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First Toss


How far should the first toss be and should it be in the direction that the race will be? I might take my birds for their first toss this evening and the closest open area that is in the direction of the races is about 4.67 miles(GPS). They will have to come home over the national forest that surrounds my town. The birds have been tripping for about an hour to an hour and a half each night. I think thay have flown that far but I am not sure.

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Old 9th August 2008, 12:21 PM
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How far should the first toss be and should it be in the direction that the race will be? I might take my birds for their first toss this evening and the closest open area that is in the direction of the races is about 4.67 miles(GPS). They will have to come home over the national forest that surrounds my town. The birds have been tripping for about an hour to an hour and a half each night. I think thay have flown that far but I am not sure.

George
I'm sure they've probably been that far if they've been flying that long. When it comes right down to it.......it's however you feel in your gut. If we tell you, "oh go ahead and take them 5 miles....." and you loose one or two or.....then we'll feel bad............and if you take them 1 mile and they're home when you get home, you'll say to yourself......." I should have taken them 5 miles"...........Some people take their birds 20 miles on the first toss. I've taken mine less than a mile and lost birds.......this year I took them 3 miles and didn't loose any.........I'm not a lot of help huh? Sorry......it's not like you've got to start racing them in two weeks.......go with whatever you feel........you've got plenty of time..........
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Old 9th August 2008, 02:45 PM
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I agree with Lovebird on going with your gut, you know your birds better than anyone, so hopefully you have a good idea what they are capeable of. Our loft just did our first toss for our youngbird team a little over 2 weeks ago, the birds were route flying for about an hour or so for little over a week before we took them. I have read before that a racing pigeon can see about 20-25 miles in either direction once its up in the air on a clear day, so in my opinion assuming what i read is true I think an 8-10 mile toss wouldnt be too extreme on a morning with favorable weather conditions before feeding. I have considered the 1-5 mile toss before and to me I thought it was probably a waste of time since the birds are already beyond that distance when they are route flying anyway, but that is just my opinion.... Our first 2 tosses were 8 miles without any losses, we jumped to 20 miles and lost 5. We have not lost any since, and our last 2 tosses were at 40 miles. To start out I would train in the direction your racing from until you know your birds have got this training thing down, and then if you choose too go ahead and mix it up. Hopefully you get a good response from this so you can decide what would work best for you and your racing team.

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Old 9th August 2008, 05:15 PM
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Took the birds for their first toss in the direction the races usually are. They were about 4.67 miles by GPS. When I turned them out (in a High School Football field) they circled about four or five times and then took off. They were home in the loft when I got there. I had to drive about 7.5 miles by road so they must have taken the short cut.

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Old 9th August 2008, 05:23 PM
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Took the birds for their first toss in the direction the races usually are. They were about 4.67 miles by GPS. When I turned them out (in a High School Football field) they circled about four or five times and then took off. They were home in the loft when I got there. I had to drive about 7.5 miles by road so they must have taken the short cut.

George
ALL RIGHT!!! Way to go.............
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Old 9th August 2008, 06:55 PM
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Hello, I am new to the sport also i had a freind give me some late hatches from last year. They had never been out of the loft to fly before i got them. I had four, one pigeon took of after being at the my loft. the other 3 i have been training for about 3 months. I had decided that I would take them around the subdivsion before taking them out on the road and after that i would take them 1 mile and then skip a mile and so on. It does take awhile. I took them today about 35 miles which they had been before and one did not come back today. So I could not tell you if going 1 mile or just going 10 miles makes a differnce. But have fun.
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