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Old 10th January 2010, 06:36 AM
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Flamingo, For those of us interested in sending birds can you explain to us what methods you use for preparing the birds for the races? ie. light system, dark system, natural, flying to eggs, flying to young, do you clip flights, products used, vaccines etc. Congrats on a great return and super speeds!!!
Ken
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When we receive the birds at the Flamingo Loft, First thing that we do is register the birds on paper and then register them in the one loft race program on the computer and chip them. Then they get a canker pill and a PMV shot. They then spend 7- 10 days in our quarentine loft until the State approved veterinarian checks the birds and signs off on them. (All of that is done on paper and the vet submits it to the State). While in the Quarrantine Loft the birds get Aureomyacin/Sulmet for 5 days and then probiotics before they go to the Flamingo Loft. The birds then are transferred to the Flamingo Loft to begin Settling. In the loft the lights are on 24/7 until July 1st. This is to help promote the Flight Molt.During this time the birds can bob out into the screens and bob back in to familiarize themselves with the bobs. After 2 weeks of this the screens are openned for the birds. (We do this in groups until they are settled good and then the groups are condensed) We have our own medication schedule and treat regularly with Ridzol and Miracle Life to control Cocci and Canker as these are the 2 that are the biggest problem for us at the Flamingo Loft. We also treat for Resp. with Doxycycline and Tylan. The first week of July we basket the birds, Pox the birds,Scan all of the chips to make sure the info is correct, Pull the 10th flight only and give them a canker pill.( This is an all day procedure. 2009 560 birds was 7 hours to complete).We start our Training late August to Early September. We are going to pay closer attention to the heat this year and not push the birds in the heat. We have to train a little later in the morning to avoid the 1000's of birds being trained locally. Most in our area train early and we dont want to lose birds that follow trainers south 15 miles. There are over10,000 birds being trained in Unit 10. If a baby gets mixed up there it would be so confused and probably not come home. When the races Start Everything we do is natural to keep the competition fair and equal. That is the pupose of our Flamingo Race. To keep the competition fair and equal so that the true Champion Pigeon is found. This was long winded but I can go on forever. Please ask any question you want and I will answer them.Thank you, Jim
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Old 10th January 2010, 12:39 PM
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Great Question,
When we receive the birds at the Flamingo Loft, First thing that we do is register the birds on paper and then register them in the one loft race program on the computer and chip them. Then they get a canker pill and a PMV shot. They then spend 7- 10 days in our quarentine loft until the State approved veterinarian checks the birds and signs off on them. (All of that is done on paper and the vet submits it to the State). While in the Quarrantine Loft the birds get Aureomyacin/Sulmet for 5 days and then probiotics before they go to the Flamingo Loft. The birds then are transferred to the Flamingo Loft to begin Settling. In the loft the lights are on 24/7 until July 1st. This is to help promote the Flight Molt.During this time the birds can bob out into the screens and bob back in to familiarize themselves with the bobs. After 2 weeks of this the screens are openned for the birds. (We do this in groups until they are settled good and then the groups are condensed) We have our own medication schedule and treat regularly with Ridzol and Miracle Life to control Cocci and Canker as these are the 2 that are the biggest problem for us at the Flamingo Loft. We also treat for Resp. with Doxycycline and Tylan. The first week of July we basket the birds, Pox the birds,Scan all of the chips to make sure the info is correct, Pull the 10th flight only and give them a canker pill.( This is an all day procedure. 2009 560 birds was 7 hours to complete).We start our Training late August to Early September. We are going to pay closer attention to the heat this year and not push the birds in the heat. We have to train a little later in the morning to avoid the 1000's of birds being trained locally. Most in our area train early and we dont want to lose birds that follow trainers south 15 miles. There are over10,000 birds being trained in Unit 10. If a baby gets mixed up there it would be so confused and probably not come home. When the races Start Everything we do is natural to keep the competition fair and equal. That is the pupose of our Flamingo Race. To keep the competition fair and equal so that the true Champion Pigeon is found. This was long winded but I can go on forever. Please ask any question you want and I will answer them.Thank you, Jim

Its good to know this for future references. Helps a person decide and know how his/her birds are handle and kept.
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Old 10th January 2010, 03:41 PM
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I would like to add my imput on the Flamingo. It was a pleasure to be part of this year, that 400 was close! I really enjoyed the U-tube coverage and I think John is on his way to the big screen. Gotta keep that cussin down. LOL At 49 seconds behind 1st in the 400 I NEED to come back next year! Am looking forward to it, and thanks for a GREAT race!
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Old 10th January 2010, 04:42 PM
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I would like to add my imput on the Flamingo. It was a pleasure to be part of this year, that 400 was close! I really enjoyed the U-tube coverage and I think John is on his way to the big screen. Gotta keep that cussin down. LOL At 49 seconds behind 1st in the 400 I NEED to come back next year! Am looking forward to it, and thanks for a GREAT race!
Thank You very much for the input. It was a very close race and all the birds deserve alot of credit. Blowhome or not it is still 385 miles on the wing in 6.5 hours. Congrats to your bird also.
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Old 11th January 2010, 05:39 AM
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Thank You very much for the input. It was a very close race and all the birds deserve alot of credit. Blowhome or not it is still 385 miles on the wing in 6.5 hours. Congrats to your bird also.
Jimhale, Congrats on a good race!! Flamingo, Thank you for taking the time to respond in detail. I can see you run a very tight ship and keeping the breeders informed is probably the most important thing for an out of area breeder IMHO.
Ken
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Old 11th January 2010, 05:53 AM
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There is the problem with too much detail. There will always be several people that do not agree. That is why I keep that information for myself. If someone asks me I will answer. Most dont understand what it is like to have 600 birds from 125 different lofts. If you think about it to long it gets scary.I do not like using to much medication but in the Flamingos case we have to sometimes. We dont want to lose 100's because of 1 ill carrier. Thanks for understanding, Jim
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