Freedom Lofts Burglarized

[hillfamilyloft]

One of the local fanciers sent this to me thought it had value


Carolyn Dewberry reported Freedom lofts had been burglarized last Thursday night. Most of the birds taken have import bands. Two of them were Netherlands birds and the last 3 digits of the band numbers were 650 and 026 a Grizzle hen and a Dark check hen.
These were birds that had been sold and were awaiting shipment. As can be expected, she is quite upset over this. She has asked that we put out the word that if the birds are returned immediately she will not pursue this with the evidence that she has that may identify the person or persons responsible. 'There will be no questions asked'. If anyone has any information about this or is approached about "Questionable" birds please contact Carolyn at 918-299-4887 or 918-510-9393.

Please Pass this on

[TAWhatley]

Thanks for posting this here. I saw it on doves-pigeons just a little bit ago and suggested that it get onto 911 Pigeon Alert.
I'm sure the poster to doves-pigeons will see that it gets there as I know she is a member.

I hope all the birds make it safely back home.

Terry

[SmithFamilyLoft]

It's a shame when this sort of thing happens, but it also brings home the point that if you own valuable things in your back yard, then you should have effective security safeguards in place. This is not a crime where it only happens to the "other guy".

One of the laws of loss prevention, is that adequate measures are only put into place after losses have occured. I would have thought that large commercial sellers like the Dewberry's would have had more then a padlock protecting their stock.

Since the crooks apparently knew which birds to take, and which to leave, I suspect that these were stolen by or for pigeon fanciers, and as such, I would be very surprized if theses birds are ever seen or heard from again.

If any good can come from this, it may be a reader reviewing his or her own security around the loft. If the only thing you have in place is a padlock, or a cheap lock in a door knob, then you effectively have no security at all.

[TheSnipes]

i only have a hobby flock of other people's unwanted castoff birds, but I use video surveillance. I love my birds and would be crushed if something happened to them. If anyone prowls around, they should smile cuz they're being recorded

[Lovebirds]

The only thing I can think of is a BIG BIG MEAN dog.......after all, all the locks in the world aren't going to keep someone out of a loft if they REALLY want to get in. All you need is a pair of wire cutters........ Kind of hard to keep someone out of a cage/building that's surrounded by wire. Maybe a full time security guard with a gun and a big stick?

[learning]

This is where my two big security guards (my dogs) might come in handy! At least we would know they are there. Renee is right however. If someone really wants to get in, they are going to find a way. The security camera thing would probably help in identifying the perpetrators but that is still after the fact.

Sad we have to worry about such things. Look at people like Dave Clausing who had the winner of the South African Sun City race stollen out of his loft. That was a bird worth tens possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost offspring.

Dan

[TheSnipes]

Originally Posted by Lovebirds

The only thing I can think of is a BIG BIG MEAN dog.......after all, all the locks in the world aren't going to keep someone out of a loft if they REALLY want to get in. All you need is a pair of wire cutters........ Kind of hard to keep someone out of a cage/building that's surrounded by wire. Maybe a full time security guard with a gun and a big stick?

I like the big stick part

[Pidgey]

That loft is just south of Tulsa, which is my town. I don't think I've ever seen a loft that was built to be that secure against a determined burglar. All you usually need is some wire cutters to get through flight portion, if nothing else. The sides are plywood and can be sawn through. I think the big mean dog is probably the better option. Otherwise, you'd need special motion detectors, alarms and a shotgun full of rocksalt.

Pidgey

[SmithFamilyLoft]

It is true that with most loft designs, a pair of wire cutters would get you into a lot of lofts. However, that person would have to be able to get to the loft in the first place, and then that assumes they will be given the time and privacy to then cut their way through.

If one is a commercial seller of pigeons, like Mr. Dewberry is, then all one has to do is invest some of those profits and hire a private security consultant or firm to show you what all can be done. Some things can be very simple and inexpensive, others more complicated and expensive.

Motion detectors, lights, alarms, security fences, attack dogs, armed guards are just some of the tools which I use to protect my investment, and the shotguns are not filled with rock salt, but with 00 buckshot.

My philosophy should serve as a warning,xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, but an intruder who invades my domain, will never do it again, that I can promise you.

[AZWhitefeather]

Originally Posted by SmithFamilyLoft

an intruder who invades my domain, will never do it again, that I can promise you.

I hear ya, Warren.
That same 'rule' applies at our household.

Cindy

[Pidgey]

Cindy, I'm swooning again.

Pidgey

[bbcdon]

I agree that trained dogs are an excellent deterrent, but here in California, if the burglars are attacked and injured, there is a good chance they will file a civil lawsuit. That's just the way it is here in the progressive golden state.

[TheSnipes]

Originally Posted by bbcdon

I agree that trained dogs are an excellent deterrent, but here in California, if the burglars are attacked and injured, there is a good chance they will file a civil lawsuit. That's just the way it is here in the progressive golden state.

Counter sue for the trauma to your dogs

[bbcdon]

I thoroughly aggree.

[Matt D.]

this is just really bad... people stealling pigeons... most people would laugh at this...