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Old 5th February 2009, 11:01 PM
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I just want everyone out there to know and appreciate the threats we have against our birds. The first is the biggest threat durring tje winter months, when the trees are bare. The coopers hawk is sneaky and cat-like. for our brothers to the north, might be the goshawk. The sharp shinnrd hawk is the smallest of the accipiters, and is too small to take a full grown pigeon. Next threat is the redtail, a very opertunistic feeder. Watch tour birds while trapping. This buteo will dine and dash if he has the chance. Usually we have a chance against redtails, we can see them coming! Next is the falcon which uses speed to catch their prey. A falcons advantage comes only if he is above your flock. Unless you live in the upper northern hemisphere, you dont have to worry about the gyr falcon --- the only bird of prey, able to out fly a racing bird in level flight! These three pictures show the three----
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Old 5th February 2009, 11:07 PM
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I so wish they didn't eat pigeons, but darn are they beautiful and that last one is sooo cute! great pics!
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Old 5th February 2009, 11:43 PM
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the first 2 will knock you out! The third will help you out!
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Old 5th February 2009, 11:48 PM
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Old 6th February 2009, 03:53 AM
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I saw a beautiful sight yesturday morning that pissed me off. I hawk sitting on my trap looking in on my birds. It was like your first picture, is that the cooper? I'm in lock down but it was a beautiful bird.
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Old 6th February 2009, 04:13 AM
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A kestrel is no threat to us.
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Old 6th February 2009, 05:32 AM
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I saw a beautiful sight yesturday morning that pissed me off. I hawk sitting on my trap looking in on my birds. It was like your first picture, is that the cooper? I'm in lock down but it was a beautiful bird.
yes the first is the worst enemy of your pigeons known as the coopers as grim said about the 3rd pic a kestrel may give your birds chase but is really to small to take down your birds ..oh and about the sharpshinned hawks, they can and will take your birds if they are around they are very able to take a pigeon down without a problem ,they look exactly like a cooper but are a little smaller in size
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Old 6th February 2009, 05:58 AM
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I'm about to turn my OB's loose after them being on lock down the month of Jan. A hawk got one of my 2003 hens, so I kept them locked up. We start racing next month, so they've GOT to get out.......we'll see what happens I guess.
I may be crying the blues later today. But I hope not.
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Old 6th February 2009, 09:15 AM
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I started letting mine out a couple of weeks ago.So far i have lost 3.One of my white birds, the hawk took her off the roof of my loft while I WAS out side knocked her down right in front of me I chased him off but the bird and the hawk flew off in the same direction with the hawk right on her tail.She never came back.The other 2 all I saw was the pile of feathers and left overs.The last time I let them out the hawk made a run at them but never really got close also the crows have been around latley so that helps.My problems are with coopers!
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Old 6th February 2009, 12:27 PM
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Well, I just called the birds in and there's 26 so no casualties today. Far as I know, there wasn't even a hawk seen in the yard today.
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Old 6th February 2009, 12:41 PM
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I guess I have been lucky. Except for very bad weather, I loft fly my birds every afternoon around 4PM. They stay our for about an hour and then they trapp. I am standing almost in front of the trap while they are landing. (There are hawks around)

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Old 6th February 2009, 12:44 PM
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George, I think some of us just don't have the hawk problems that others do. I know that I don't. Pisses me off every time a hawk gets one of my birds, but considering it's only happened a half dozen times in 7 years......I can't complain. I know they're around here too. I see my birds all run in the loft a few times a day and I know something is out there. Just, most of the time, they don't bother my birds while they're out.
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Old 6th February 2009, 04:21 PM
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Well wouldn't ya know it! I come home from work today and there IS A COOPER HAWK IN THE LOFT! First let me say no birds were killed, now let me try to explain why.My loft is upstairs over my garage.The bottom has 1 side open( I park my popup camper in there) the other side has a garage door on it.The hawk did not go thru the traps because if he would have he would have been trapped in the section he went in.upstairs only half is really loft so I have wire covering half.So this is the only way I can explain he went in the open section on the bottom then went thru the divider on the bottom that has a gap of about 1 ft.(I fixed that tonight)Then went up thru the floor opening that is about 3 ft by 3ft with a ladder in it.once up there he could not get the birds because of the wire that did not stop him from scaring the crap out my birds.I have no idea how long he was up there of course they all were up against the avaries facing the other way.Some were on eggs so they were not covered for awhile I hope they are not runied.It took a good while be for things clamed down and they got back on the eggs!I can not beleive how smart that hawk was! Well he want get back in that way again! I just hope the eggs are good and they dont figure out how to get theu the trap that has happened to me before. Jeff
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Hey lucky maybe that experience will build your birds fear up about the hawk even more so next time they will be even more prepared.....?
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Old 6th February 2009, 04:46 PM
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Well wouldn't ya know it! I come home from work today and there IS A COOPER HAWK IN THE LOFT! First let me say no birds were killed, now let me try to explain why.My loft is upstairs over my garage.The bottom has 1 side open( I park my popup camper in there) the other side has a garage door on it.The hawk did not go thru the traps because if he would have he would have been trapped in the section he went in.upstairs only half is really loft so I have wire covering half.So this is the only way I can explain he went in the open section on the bottom then went thru the divider on the bottom that has a gap of about 1 ft.(I fixed that tonight)Then went up thru the floor opening that is about 3 ft by 3ft with a ladder in it.once up there he could not get the birds because of the wire that did not stop him from scaring the crap out my birds.I have no idea how long he was up there of course they all were up against the avaries facing the other way.Some were on eggs so they were not covered for awhile I hope they are not runied.It took a good while be for things clamed down and they got back on the eggs!I can not beleive how smart that hawk was! Well he want get back in that way again! I just hope the eggs are good and they dont figure out how to get theu the trap that has happened to me before. Jeff
OMG.........I would have died..........glad it couldn't get any birds. It was prisoners that were being scared, right? I've heard of hawks getting in lofts and the next time the birds were turned loose, they refused to trap back in. They don't forget very quickly.
Hows the cock bird doing?
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