Hillfamilyloft's Test Birds!

[ace in the hole]

Hi Randy,

The birds have been on race feed since one week before their first released outside. The feed is my own blend. They will recieve this same feed all season. The only thing that will change is some added safflower and corn for the longer races.

At this time they are only being fed once a day. In the morning. After they are released in the morning they trap for their food. They will be taken off the darkening system on the 21st of this month. After that they will be flying morning and evening, and they will then be fed twice a day.

I have not been able to post any pics with the camera I have. I will have to get Helen's camera and see if I can get some pics on here of the team.

Ace

[ace in the hole]

Let's see if I can get pics on here now!

Attachment 9108
Hey, It worked!!!! Here is a pic of part of the team in the loft.
I will post more pics of the team soon. I sent Randy some pics yesterday of the team in the loft and bath day pics. If he can shrink them he will be posting those here as well.



Is this bird a yellow, or what would you call it. I know it will change some when it moults out.

Attachment 9109

Ace

[hillfamilyloft]

good to see that you figured out how to post. I was working on it also. Looks like you got it. Interesting coloration on that bird.

Randy

[ace in the hole]

Ya, it was in the setting on the camera. Would you believe I had to read the directions.

If you can shrink the ones I sent you still post them. If not let me know and I will get some more pics on their next bath day.

Ace

[Lovebirds]

Originally Posted by ace in the hole

Ya, it was in the setting on the camera. Would you believe I had to read the directions.

If you can shrink the ones I sent you still post them. If not let me know and I will get some more pics on their next bath day.

Ace

If you can't shrink them, send them to me and I"ll post them. I like you're box perches.

[ace in the hole]

Hi Renee,

I have tried several times to figure out how to shrink them. If I email them to you, would you be able to shrink them and post them?

Ace

[Lovebirds]

Originally Posted by ace in the hole

Hi Renee,

I have tried several times to figure out how to shrink them. If I email them to you, would you be able to shrink them and post them?

Ace

Right now for some reason, I can't actually post pictures to this site, but I can put them on a page on my web site and they can be as big or small as you want them. Just send them to the email address I sent you earlier.

[ace in the hole]

Hi all,

I sent the pics to Renee and she will be posting them on here from her site when she gets a chance. These are pics of the birds at rest inside the loft and of them outside in the flight pen for bath time.

"Thank you Renee"

Ace

[bloodlines_365]

nice perch... thats one good idea.... ill make some for mine soon..... very clean for the birds....

[Lovebirds]

Here's the pictures. Don't know what's up with copying the link.



http://lovebirdsloft.homestead.com/A...eholepics.html

[bloodlines_365]

those birds are pretty nice.....

[ace in the hole]

Hi Bloodlines,

Thank you. I am very happy to have the stock that I have to start back into this sport. I love spending time in the loft and watching them fly. If I can get enough training time in with them they should do very well.

As for the box perches, or roost boxes. They are made of 1x8s & 1x4s. The back wall of the loft has five 12 ft. sections (60 perches). The dividers are on 12 in. centers, and are 10 in. long. I notched out the bottom corners for the actual roosting board to fit up flush with the bottom of the divider. The roosting board they perch on is 1"x2"s and the top edges have been rounded off using a hammer handle. The sections were installed 2 in. apart from each other to give room for easy cleaning. They were not cheap to make but they do make clean up easy and keep the birds clean.


Ace

[spirit wings]

yes I like your perches too....great idea to put that strip across the dividers so they can be above the poo...if they want, that would be a good sticky for the loft design thread....perch pic ideas!

[hillfamilyloft]

Well I hear from other posts that Ace has retired his young Keiser cock to the breeding loft. Not even letting my birds beat it in the young bird races. Just razzing you Ace. I am just a bit cocky after winning High points in the Albuquerque Old bird season. One of my birds also won the 250 mile race by 9 minutes.
This goes back to the old debate of paper vs. basket. The little guy may even have some of Warren's blood in it. I do think a guy should use stock sense, a little paper, and a lot of basket to establish his team. I know Ace thinks highly of this cock.
I have also read by a smart winner, I think it was Groundelars who said, "If they aren't pleasing to they eye, it does not matter how well they race". They need both good looks and a good race record. Personally, I have always stocked winners, but I have also used a bit of stock sence in establishing my family of birds. I do know that winners always look the best. I know from experience that confident looking, top perch birds, strong and fiesty do produce the best youngsters for me.
When pulling birds out of my yearling loft to send Ace for breeders, I first looked at the three most dominant "top perch" cocks and sent them along with their hens. To me the paper is similar because my birds are closely related.
As for the 16 young birds I sent him, they were selected more by performance of their brothers and sister.
Well if that young cock that you retired is a good as you sence he is he will breed many winners.

Randy

[ace in the hole]

Good morning Cocky, I mean Randy,

It's to foggy here this morning to put the birds up yet, so I have some time to talk birds.

To you and your birds Randy, GOOD JOB, WAY TO GO!!! Now, we just hope we can say that to each other this fall.

As for this cock bird. He does have three of his sisters on the race team. They all look great and we will see what they do. I am also letting Keizer Boy & Miss Prez raise one late hatch round for stock. These young will be bred to your birds for next years team and their dad Keizer Boy will be bred to one of your best hens. If they cross well the plan is from there to put all of the young from Keizer Boy & Prez and Keizer Boy & Your Hen together to start one part of my new family of birds. Of their offspring only the best will stay to be crossed with the other 2/3 of my new family.

The other part of this new family of birds will come from the best of my race team. One part of this family will come from Richard Clark Topgunlofts. He has sent me 20 birds out of his best (he is not flying young birds this year). Many of these birds have parents that are Futurity winners, Ace Pigeons and Hall of fame birds, as well as brothers and sisters that hold the same titles. Or maybe the 3 Super Schellen's from Ed at Siegel's. They could come from birds from Larry Fatalski, Ted Wade, Kim Aldritch, Larry Davis, Dennis Burk, John Smith or Ken Munson. They could even come from Warren Smith Smithfamilylofts through Ken Munson.

Yes Warren, I did get some of your birds after all.
2004 IF YORK 620 wich I bred to 2004 IF YORK 830. They have three young on the team, two of them club auction birds. Also 2004 IF YORK 836 bred to a Houben Cock that goes back to a race winner of the Million $ race in Africa.

Someware in this mix is the Ace In The Hole Racing Loft's new family of birds. Where? Time will tell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you keep up with this post by this fall you will know who makes the cut!

Ace