More Peta Crap

[bunnyrabbit]

Here you will see a group of IDIOTS!!!! that will probably cause me or you to loose what we all enjoy the most.

If you see your self in this video, may be next time you will think twice about the things you say and use discretion and whatever you do, keep it to your self because you are not only representing your self in the sport; you are representing all of us, and all of us in not like you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=4u4MA3eJnpo

[bunnyrabbit]

I apologized if I offended anyone in that post, but what I was trying to point out in that post is for those people who said a lot of things that they do, in the video that do not represent everyone.

To people who is not educated in the sport, they will for sure will strayed away from sport or worst, some government in one states can shut down having to care for such animal. What i intended do do is to convey anyone who is involve in racing pigeon should used more discretion in things that they say because you never know who you are speaking to.

And what some person may say or acted the way they did on that video represents all racing pigeon fanciers, and not all are the same. That's is what I wanted to point out. Again apologized. Not my intention to provoke or offend others and I'm not trying to get a reply.

[bunnyrabbit]

I apologized if I offended anyone in that post, but what I was trying to point out in that post is for those people who said a lot of things that they do, in the video that do not represent everyone.

To people who is not educated in the sport, they will for sure will strayed away from sport or worst, some government in one states can shut down having to care for such animal. What i intended do do is to convey anyone who is involve in racing pigeon should used more discretion in things that they say because you never know who you are speaking to.

And what some person may say or acted the way they did on that video represents all racing pigeon fanciers, and not all are the same. That's is what I wanted to point out. Again apologized. Not my intention to provoke or offend others and I'm not trying to get a reply.

[sev3ns0uls]

ummm im going to be honest with my opinion.

I think that yes i agree peta are right on some points that some racer kill their YB if they didnt win...it is a shame for those pigeon racer who care about is the money. it is very obvious to me that what do racer do with their YB every year?? i know they breed alot and somehow by next year they got new one...so where is the last year birds???

many would argue that they sell it but to be honest who would want to buy pigeon or no winner birds??? definitely if i were to go around my neighborhood and try to sell my pigeon, 99% will probably reject me.

some will argue that those YB didnt make it home from the race due to predation and weather issue....but still it doesnt make sense and contradiction because racer already train their birds to come home from far and long distances before the race and how can they prove that some birds just didnt make it home...?? typically, didnt you sent out your BEST birds??

In another view, if the racer kill their YB for food than i would disagree with peta. After all pigeon is still consider as food.

[PigeonVilla]

Anything peta is a slipery slope as they dont want anyone to have animals period .

[NZ Pigeon]

Originally Posted by sev3ns0uls

ummm im going to be honest with my opinion.

I think that yes i agree peta are right on some points that some racer kill their YB if they didnt win...it is a shame for those pigeon racer who care about is the money. it is very obvious to me that what do racer do with their YB every year?? i know they breed alot and somehow by next year they got new one...so where is the last year birds???

many would argue that they sell it but to be honest who would want to buy pigeon or no winner birds??? definitely if i were to go around my neighborhood and try to sell my pigeon, 99% will probably reject me.

some will argue that those YB didnt make it home from the race due to predation and weather issue....but still it doesnt make sense and contradiction because racer already train their birds to come home from far and long distances before the race and how can they prove that some birds just didnt make it home...?? typically, didnt you sent out your BEST birds??

In another view, if the racer kill their YB as food then i would disagree with peta. After all pigeon is still consider as food.

Summed up nicely I think!

[beatlemike]

I still dont understand where some people get the notion that almost all the birds who dont return from a race perish. They are born with the instink to survive.
Just as our young birds are with the knowledge that hawks are danger. No one trains their young birds to beware of hawks but they are born with it. I still believe that the majority of birds who dont make it home do survive as well as the ferals. And to be honest,what would be so horrible about killing off the unwanted birds if used as food. We kill chickens and cattle by the tens of thousands everyday to be eaten. Just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions. PS. I never claimed I could spell well either.

[NZ Pigeon]

I agree beatle mike - Lots survive. Some don't. I can see both sides I would just like some of the members that seem adiment their birds are never subject to any suffering to admit that no matter how well you try to protect all race birds. Not all will survive and some will suffer.

So if we can do anything to make the sport better for the birds why not? And if PETA put it out there and raise awarness then we may see some change

p.s. I do not agree with their methods but the underlying message, although exaggerated by them is worthy of being put out there

[SmithFamilyLoft]

Originally Posted by bunnyrabbit

Here you will see a group of IDIOTS!!!! that will probably cause me or you to loose what we all enjoy the most.

If you see your self in this video, may be next time you will think twice about the things you say and use discretion and whatever you do, keep it to your self because you are not only representing your self in the sport; you are representing all of us, and all of us in not like you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=4u4MA3eJnpo

A flock of idiots ? I have no idea who these people were suppose to be, their faces were not visible, and I don't know how these tapes may have been altered. Have no idea what really may have been said, or by who. For all I know, they were PETA actors. There have been PETA members who have joined some local clubs and maybe these were some of those PETA folks. Apparently it took 15 months to gather just a couple of mins of tape. Who knows how many hundreds or thousands of hours of tape were of no use to them, because they edited out any positive communications. Where are those tapes of PETA killing dogs in the back of a van ? Where are the PETA porn tapes ? Or the dog snuff films they plan to play on their porn site ? This so called 15 month "pigeon investigation" is laughable.

[Lovelace]

well for one thing we don't teach our pigeons to come home its in there blood to wont to come home, we just get them in shape to come home, and yes I have two buddies that raises pigeons for food, so most of the ones I don't wont goes to him.
as this PETA crap, well it will take money to bet money.

[Alamo]

Pigeons that are medicated should not to be eaten....You can/should only eat UN-medicated birds...I will not eat my birds...I might eat yours,but not mine...
If any PETA members eat any MEAT AT ALL,they are hypocrites... And I would bet many of them do eat meat....

NOTE:As far as the video they have out,many of the words spoken by pigeon flyers is all to real,and truthfull...I will say that if someone talks to you,and asks questions,and the conversation lasts 30 minutes,PETA only broadcasts 10 or 15 seconds of your 30 minute conversation...They don`t show the world ALL THE GOOD that we are doing with these birds....I know some guys that fly birds a certain way...I don`t condone the pratice,I HATE THE PRATICE,and I have NEVER,or EVER will fly my birds in this manner....I made a statement to a pigeon guy,and a "civilian" person,who was undercover,recorded my words...In all the years that I have been around pigeons(70),this is the only pratice that makes me puke...I am on/in the video at the end...I am the guy with the grey pullover,and WV hat on....Those words are TRUE....I didn`t want the world to hear them...I only wanted a new pigeon guy to hear them...Not those meat eating PETA people...Is their gambling on pigeons ?? You know whether there is or not...Is there Powerball in your state ?? You know the answer to that....Is there a Casino in your state ?? You know the answer to that...Gambling is everywhere....Whether legit or not...Who here has NEVER been in a office pool,of some kind ?? Does PETA want to control the world ?? Are they communists ?? Maybe they are !!!! Alamo

[JaxRacingLofts]

I watched that PETA propaganda clip that bunny posted and it seems odd to me that they would claim racing as "cruelty"? (of course how many hours of footage did they have to discard until they found someone to exploit)

Anyway, how is giving our birds the freedom to enjoy the open skies cruel? If the birds don't like their home they can choose to leave and join a new flock of course though then they have to deal with these SoarNoMore clowns!

These guys brag about baiting and killing our birds (with no bag limit) and then wear their leg bands on strings around their necks like they did some brave thing.

Where is the hidden video camera of the real animal killers?

[beatlemike]

I never thought of that Alamo but you are so very well right. Most of the birds would taste like apple cider vinegar(yuk).

[Vova]

I'v spent hundreds of dollars on my pigeons.. haven't made a penny off them

[TAWhatley]

This is a very damaging video for pigeon racing. Sadly, I KNOW a lot of the bad stuff is true. You guys and gals that race pigeons and show pigeons are the only ones who can change your image. I personally have friends who race and show pigeons, and they would NOT be my friends if they were not caring and responsible towards their birds. I know from experience that not all pigeon owners are like my friends .. thus pigeon fanciers have gotten a very bad reputation in the minds of many, and this PETA thing could and probably will be very, very bad for your sport and fancy. Sad to say that way too much bad stuff is true.

Terry