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lefty1991 lefty1991 is offline
Posted 30th August 2008, 08:39 PM
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right know i have 6 pairs of breeders of unknown blood i dont want to waste them and give them away i was thinking of doing this. since i am getting a pair of birds from ace and 2 pairs from whitesnmore that gives me 3 pairs.so if i use the six pairs i have now and use them as pumpers i will increase the number of youngbirds significantly. by doing this i will increase the chances of sucess.when the youngbirds are ready to fly i can use some of the pumpers to help them start flying and to encourage them. do you guys think this is a good idea.i have a 10 individual breeding boxes that go on the outside of the loft and dont take up space in the inside.i will post a pic of it.


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Posted 30th August 2008, 08:41 PM
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oh yes they use the electronic timing system.
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Posted 30th August 2008, 08:42 PM
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most of the flyers have tossed theyre birds at least 40 miles on the line of flight.
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Posted 30th August 2008, 10:27 PM
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Pumpers are a great idea. I use a few pairs as pumpers. They are more than happy to raise youngsters that are not theirs. You may even get some late hatches out of the new breeders that you can race old birds with.

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Posted 30th August 2008, 10:30 PM
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individual breeding boxes


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Posted 30th August 2008, 10:31 PM
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how many birds do you think i can raise with 6 pairs of pumpers.
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Posted 31st August 2008, 06:55 PM
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Enough to fill your loft in one season. Keep in mind whether you know the blood of your birds or not does not make them bad. They may actually be great birds. Training and health play a big part in a race as well.
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Posted 31st August 2008, 06:59 PM
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yeah i know but i think its a little better to know where your birds at least came from so you wont be wasting money on birds that might not have what it takes.
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Posted 31st August 2008, 07:28 PM
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ace can you send me a pic of the birds
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Here are some pic of your new kids Lefty. I do not feel they are eating on there own yet so we will have to wait until next Monday to ship them.

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Posted 1st September 2008, 02:24 PM
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Ace shoot me the band numbers and I will make up pedigrees for Lefty. Looking good.

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I also missed which pair they are off of. If you could refresh my memory.

Thanks

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There parents are BC Cock DRO 1366 and BC Hen DRO 1349. Their band #s are DC 5429 & BC 5433.

They are not as fat and sassy as they could be because the birds have not been on my breeders mix.

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They should make a good addition. 1366 is off a full Vic Miller bird and a Janssen bird. The Janssen is a little hen thats grandparents are out of Janssen brothers loft via Mike Ganus. They are down from the 019, Zitter and all the greats. The Vic Miller bird has a bit of Jos Thone in him.

1349 is off a brother to 1366 and a sister to my futurity winner. These should be a nice set of breeders. Some notables in this side of the pedigree are the Miller Cock, Piet Valk, Calia, and Sonny Scott. These have been very good birds for me.

I am with Lefty, I would much rather breed from birds I know their background then to take a chance on something I know nothing about. I do not think Lefty wants to fill his loft with mediocre birds that don't have a chance to win. Chances are that if someone sold him those birds and did not tell him what they were down from, that chances are they are they will not breed champions. Using them for pumpers is a good choice. These two may not breed him winners, but their parents and brothers and sisters all have.

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Posted 1st September 2008, 07:28 PM
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ace the birds are beautiful . the dark check one is bigger than its nestmate.do you have any offspring of this mating in your race team.
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