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Posted 13th February 2009, 02:46 AM
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Soontjen racing pigeons Australia


BBP Soontjen Hen She won 1st club by 39 min 1st section 4th overall 300mile smash


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Soontjen Cock


This cock won 1st club 3rd section 11th overall
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Posted 13th February 2009, 03:12 AM
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Are you from down under ?

Are these your bird's pictures ?

The name of these pigeons rings a bell, but I will be honest, I don't know anything about them. Were they imported into Australia or were they developed in country ?

Thanks for sharing and posting the pictures.
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Posted 13th February 2009, 03:14 AM
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A soontjen stock cock 1/2brother 1st club 1st section 17 overall fed Alll Age Derby 400 miles
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Posted 13th February 2009, 03:20 AM
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Yes I race in Sydney.
The pigeons are mine I probably have the best of the Soontjens imported in Australia
They are a Belgium pigeon and are the base of the Staff Van Reets they are regarded as the fastest pigeons in the world. I was lucky enough to get my stock from the importer I will post some more pictures
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Posted 13th February 2009, 03:29 AM
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My race and stock lofts
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Yes I race in Sydney.
The pigeons are mine I probably have the best of the Soontjens imported in Australia
They are a Belgium pigeon and are the base of the Staff Van Reets they are regarded as the fastest pigeons in the world. I was lucky enough to get my stock from the importer I will post some more pictures
WOW ! Fastest pigeons in the World !

At what distance are these the Fastest in the World ?
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Posted 13th February 2009, 08:52 AM
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The sootjens, mike ganus's bird the president is sootjens. Very good birds indeed.
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The sootjens, mike ganus's bird the president is sootjens. Very good birds indeed.
Gee...here I have been calling my birds Joep Koch based birds, and now you are telling me Sootjens ? Since Joep Koch is the breeder of the bird, that Mike Ganus renamed "President"...where or how does the name Sootjens come in ?

Not that it makes a whole lot of difference to me, but I own direct children and numerous grandchildren and great children from President : http://ganusfamilyloft.com/president2.htm as well of course from others who I think can tear the wings off of these fine birds, but that is another story.
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Yes I race in Sydney.
The pigeons are mine I probably have the best of the Soontjens imported in Australia
They are a Belgium pigeon and are the base of the Staff Van Reets they are regarded as the fastest pigeons in the world. I was lucky enough to get my stock from the importer I will post some more pictures
fastest....... you think if this birds are base on staff van reets their not fast enough... maybe ten years ago....... or it depends on what condition and distance they are specialized to....( wal zoontjens) and (soontjeens) are deff... rigth
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I dont know if its an s or a z for soontjens but the sire and dam of the president are from him.Sire:Wal zoontjen's dam:half zoontjen's/joep. The s or z could probably be a big difference though
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The Soontjens were bred by Jos Soontjen and no they are not (zootjens) in the years that he flew he was seldom beaten some of the best flyers in Belguim went to Jos Soontjen to put them across there own. Here in Australia ther were only 6 pair of the Soontjens imported back in 1998 now they are the most sort after pigeon in any sale bringing top dollar every time. They have won for me from 60 mile to 600 mile fast 2000meters per min down to as low as 400meters per min and un like all other imports to Australia they like the wind in there faces. Our north coast route is by far out toughest route with the birds flying over mountains for the first 300miles into head winds week after week the Jannseens turn there toes up by 200mile along with all the other imports the Soontjens just get better. Every flyer I have breed them for and gifted them to have won races and are the stand outs
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Thanks for the clarifacation always thought they were the same. Seems like the kind of birds everyone needs.
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Jos Soontjen won 81 firsts in just 5 years of racing his birds were based on 3 main pigeons BELG 75 6353162 BBC Blaue De Wolf (a hen ) and BELG 81 6688022 BBH

Some of the flyers that had them were
Pros Roosen
In 1992 Pros Roosen had a pigeon selected to represent Belgium in the Olympiade in Las Palmas in the sport middle distance class. This pigeon, ring number 90.5328321 whose name became 'Olympiade', ws bred from a daughter of 'Supercrack 327' when paired to 'Hond', wich was also the father of 'Magic star' the 1st ace middle distance pigeon of Belgium KBDB in 1994, bred by Pros Roosen and raced by Jaak Koninx.

'HOND'

Father of 'den Olympiade' Cat Sports Middle-distance Gran Canaria 1993, 'Magic Star' 1st Ace Pigeon Middle-distance KBDB 1994, Koninx Jaak, Zonhoven.




Sire of 'Hond' was 'Computer II' winnner of thirteen 1st prizes and 80 other prizes. He was also 1st ace pigeon in the Province, short distance, KBDB 1989; 2nd ace pigeon in the Province, short distance KBDB 1988; 5th ace pigeon of Belgium short distance KBDB 1988; 5th ace pigeon of Belgium short distance KBDB 1989 and 6th ace pigeon Provincial KBDB 1990. Dam of 'Hond' was a daughter of 'Computer I' wich was an ace pigeon of Belgium KBDB and was also ace pigeon BDS.
Both 'Computer I' and 'Computer II' have the same sire which was the famous 'Tom' of Jos Soontjens of Wommelgem from whom Pros Roosens purchased the best lines. Roosens purchased the best lines.

Another outstanding pigeon for Pros Roosen was 'De Asduif' which in 1991 was the 1st Ace Middle Distance pigeon of the Province of Limburg and also 1st Ace pigeon middle distance of the LDS 2,000.
This crack pigeon also finds his origin in the Soontjens x 'Supercrack 327' bloodlines. His sire was 'De Raket' Which was an offspring of 'Computer I' and dam of 'De Asduif', was a daughter of 'Supercrack 327'.

When you read the list of prizes won by 'Supercrack 327' you will agree that he has earned the name 'Supercrack 327'. As with his and all the other birds listed these are single performaces without any duplication. I am of the opinion that 'Supercrack 327' is the best racing pigeon that has ever lived. I do not know of a pigeon with a better racing record than he has!

'Supercrack 327' also won, 1979 - 3rd Ace Pigeon Yearlings De Belgische Duivensport after loft mate 78.5174310; 1980 - 4th Ace Pigeon Mid-distance De Belgische Duivensport; 1982 - 1st Ace Pigeon Mid-distance De Reisduif, 2nd Ace Pigeon Mid-distance De Belgische Duivensport; 1983 - 2nd Ace Pigeon Mid-distance De Belgische Duivensport, 2nd Ace Pigeon Mid-distance Vlaams - Waals Fondclub, 3rd Ace Pigeon Mid-distance De Reisduif. He was co-winner of 1981 Golden Pigeon of Belgium, Superstar Middle-distance of Belgium - De Reisduif, Best Loft of Belguim, De Reisduif.

Jan Grondelaers
1st National Argenton 93
was a Soontjen x

Some of the Soontjen pigeons
Computer 2 13 x 1st
BELG 92 5040100 14 races 14 prizes
Geshifte 22x1st
Rambo 12 x 1st
Flashy Jan produced over 20 winners
Blue Jan 16 x 1st
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39 Minutes from 300 miles wow thats impressive...
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