what breeds of pure white racing pigeons can you get?

[canfordpigeons]

thinking of getting some white racers to make my loft a bit more colourfull what breeds can you get prefur dissance but do not mind

[Timber]

Solid Whites can be found in every "family" of birds if you breed for it throughout the years. You will mostly see "strains" such as, Delbar, Janssen, Bandit, Pletnickx, Stichelbaut, Mortvedt, Sion and any combination there of. Now the trick is can any of them fly under any distance from a few feet to hundreds of miles away from your loft based on your training and health care management, your environmental conditions, etc?

It took me three years to finally get a solid white racer for my system of doing things.

How do you intend on flying them? Race or White Dove Release's? Or simply loft flying?

[Big T]

Timber is right. Basic rule is either breed for color or breed for racing. If you want to win races color is the last thing you look for in a bird.

[Big T]

Originally Posted by Timber

Solid Whites can be found in every "family" of birds if you breed for it throughout the years. You will mostly see "strains" such as, Delbar, Janssen, Bandit, Pletnickx, Stichelbaut, Mortvedt, Sion and any combination there of. Now the trick is can any of them fly under any distance from a few feet to hundreds of miles away from your loft based on your training and health care management, your environmental conditions, etc?

It took me three years to finally get a solid white racer for my system of doing things.

How do you intend on flying them? Race or White Dove Release's? Or simply loft flying?

Hey Timber,
My two birds I sent you are part Sion and part Mortvedt, do you have any other breeds of Whites? Like Janssen or Delbar?

[canfordpigeons]

i am looking at fristly just loft flying but maybee racing old bird season

[Timber]

Hey Tony,

Ill be sending you my "Special Blend"...LOL They are Mortvedt Whites crossed onto my Hall Whites which are a blend of Sion & Bandit Blood. This combination has worked good for me so far. Being that we are just south of you, they should fly just as good there as well.

[george simon]

Roger Mortvedt's family of birds are JANSEN /VAN HEE cross he has built this family over many years. He has good birds, Roger is a friend and I have known him for about 10 years.I do not race any longer but if I did I would have some of his birds in my loft GEORGE

[Big T]

Originally Posted by Timber

Hey Tony,

Ill be sending you my "Special Blend"...LOL They are Mortvedt Whites crossed onto my Hall Whites which are a blend of Sion & Bandit Blood. This combination has worked good for me so far. Being that we are just south of you, they should fly just as good there as well.

Sounds good, My New Yorkers have settled in real good and one has a boyfriend. By the way, all my young birds get banded now.

This is fun,
Tony

[Timber]

George, Thats true...I had to look back on my pedigrees to find it though. Roger simply put 'Mortvedt'....LOL


Tony, thats great. It will make things so much easier....youll see...

[james fillbrook]

just asking how do you guys tell the diffnce from a white dove like a white homer to a white racer sorry if its off task

[Timber]

Originally Posted by james fillbrook

just asking how do you guys tell the diffnce from a white dove like a white homer to a white racer sorry if its off task

No Problem....

The white homer is just that, a Homer. It will tend to beable to fly around the loft and even return from short to medium (2-25 miles) road tosses. It may take him/her a few minutes to return or may take up to hours or even days.

The White Race Bird, will do all of that above but come home faster and is able to return from hundreds of miles, in a few hours. At worse the next day but its much more reliable the the "White Homer".

Now ofcourse, if you do not know which one you have, you will have to fliy them and test them. Over time judging by your losses, it will be clear on what type you have. If you do not like your results then, youll have to bring in new birds that have the instincts to accomplich what you set out for them.

FYI: It took me three years on a "working mans" family budget to finally get a Solid White that could race the distance. Its a work in progress mind you but it give me a "base-line" to work from and hopefully improve my results with proper selective breeding, training and racing.

Hope this helps.....

[fresnobirdman]

once you start looking for color,
you will soon notice that your loft has already suffered greatly,

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by fresnobirdman

once you start looking for color,
you will soon notice that your loft has already suffered greatly,

That depends on if you want to be successful at racing, then that is good advice. I don't ,so Im very happy with a bird that can only go 30 miles or just be nice to watch flock and fly around the house. not all homers are racers, but they still can be enjoyed.

[Big T]

Originally Posted by spirit wings

That depends on if you want to be successful at racing, then that is good advice. I don't ,so Im very happy with a bird that can only go 30 miles or just be nice to watch flock and fly around the house. not all homers are racers, but they still can be enjoyed.

Spirit Wings, I like your spirit. As the saying goes, If you race, breed for racing; but if you breed for color, don't race. I'm sure Timber has worked very hard to breed a white that can go the distance. But then we all have our own type of fun with the love of our birds. But i agree with you, the whites just look so pretty flying around the house. Even my neighbors like them.

God Bless,
Tony

[Timber]

Big T,

Thats true. Its been a lot of hard work (costly I should say) to get a good flying white. But lets not forget ours are dual purpose, Racing and Dove Releases.....

Even my normal race birds, I have a soft spot for anything with white on it, flights, pieds and splashes. It is simply eye pleasing when they are all out flying. I always know which ones are mine come shipping night and race day simply by the colors...LOL