abandon baby pigeons need home

[Lovebirds]

Originally Posted by AZWhitefeather

Folks,
I've been out all day & just now getting on the site.

This is a very frustrating situation & Mary is facing the brunt of it which only adds insult to injury. However . . .

I would like to request that no more comments be sent as everything is speculation at this point.

Evidence is being gathered & until tests have been performed & a confirmed diagnosis of what is happening to these birds has been made we shouldn't be sending letters to anyone.

I hope you all understand what I'm trying to say.

Cindy

I understand and agree completely.

[little bird]

Perhaps we should tone down our comments but I would hate for anybody in Glendale, AZ to think Mary stands alone!!! The squeeky wheel gets the grease and this situation calls for hundreds of voices demanding an investigation that won't be swept under the rug because they are ONLY PIGEONS.

[Charis]

Originally Posted by little bird

Perhaps we should tone down our comments but I would hate for anybody in Glendale, AZ to think Mary stands alone!!! The squeeky wheel gets the grease and this situation calls for hundreds of voices demanding an investigation that won't be swept under the rug because they are ONLY PIGEONS.

Truely, Mary is not alone.
While it may appear that nothing is being done...the wheels are moving.

[philodice]

Yes, we might want to reserve some of our comments for Sunday or Monday.

[KIPPY]

I'm really curious as too, how many (approx) injured you have Mary that are going to be picked up tomorrow?
I may need to move some of my birds around and we only have so many carriers. Just trying to get a heads up so I can get organized.

[TAWhatley]

Well, there seems to be a lot going on behind the scenes with this situation. I think all of us that are not directly involved would be well advised to wait for SPECIFIC information/instructions from our members who are there and dealing with it as to how to help and not hinder this situation by taking action on our own.

I know we all want to help, but sometimes tis better to just let the ones on the scene come up with the game plan and then let us know.

Personally, I really don't know all the details of this, so please don't ask me. Let's wait for our Arizona members and other members who are seriously into this to bring us up to date and let us know what needs to be done next.

Terry

[xxmoxiexx]

WOW! Have i SURE missed a lot of action! Been away from this thread for a bit, and WOW! YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME! I have been so busy woth mid-terms and such, havent seen this, and i am amazed at what a GREAT job everyone is doing! I am GLOWING with pride at how great our members are here! I wish i was closer and able to help somehow, but you guys are doing such a great job, and when there are people helping, it's IMPOSSIBLE to give up! When you are doing it totally alone, it seems hopeless. I learned that when Solly and Charis needed help with that petition Hannah started, as soon as people saw them working at it, it made others want to help and look what we accomplished! I am soooo happy to know this operation is heading in the same direction, already is a huge success!
My heart does and is breaking for the birds still there. I really wish things like this didnt happen, it just makes me so sad, and i hate being sad! I'm glad to know the caught pigeons are doing well. I am sending thoughts of healthy happy pigeons for the caught AND still wild pijjies! I hate poison! And hate people that use it too!
Mary, thank you for trying so hard and continuing to help, and you didnt even KNOW about this website yet! That shows determination! I know i found this website with ONE sick pigeon on my hand, i dont know if i could of done what you are doing before i even KNEW about this site! It would of seemed hopeless right from the START! People like you and all you Arizona Angels never give up, and it is such an inspiration to me right now, and obviously to everyone else here too! Keep up the good fight everyone!

[TheSnipes]

Originally Posted by AZWhitefeather

Folks,
I've been out all day & just now getting on the site.

This is a very frustrating situation & Mary is facing the brunt of it which only adds insult to injury. However . . .

I would like to request that no more comments be sent as everything is speculation at this point.

Evidence is being gathered & until tests have been performed & a confirmed diagnosis of what is happening to these birds has been made we shouldn't be sending letters to anyone.

I hope you all understand what I'm trying to say.

Cindy

Well at the risk of going against the crowd, and I sure don't want to sound like a naysayer and I applaud everyone's efforts - obviously - but gathering evidence, performing tests and diagnosing what is happening - isn't that be the responsibility of law enforcement? I can't tell from your post who's doing what of course, but I hope the proper authorities are involved. That is largely because it's only their evidence that counts (legally speaking) and I am hoping that there is some legal measure that can be invoked to stop the indiscriminate killing of these birds. I know that a small group of people, no matter how dedicated, can not remove them all to safety fast enough. I hope everyone understands what I'm trying to say.

[pigeon2luv]

Today will be a happy day for me, knowing more injured,sick pigeons will be leaving here.

[Dezirrae]

OMG... this is such a horrible situation and I certainly APPLAUDE ALL the AZ Angels for their efforts to rectify. Thank you also Charis for bringing this thread to my attention - I had read the beginnings in early March but had lost touch with it. My heart just goes out to all of you gathering the flock and helping them get to safety and to Mary for having to see and gather all the deceased

When it's the proper time to take action (from a distance) please remember to let me know -- and of course, if there is anything I can do in meantime please give a holler.

In the meantime, I will have all of you and the birds in my prayers. May God bless you and give you the extra strength for the challenges that lay ahead.

[AZWhitefeather]

Originally Posted by TheSnipes

* Well at the risk of going against the crowd, and I sure don't want to sound like a naysayer and I applaud everyone's efforts - obviously - but gathering evidence, performing tests and diagnosing what is happening - isn't that be the responsibility of law enforcement?

** I can't tell from your post who's doing what of course, but I hope the proper authorities are involved. That is largely because it's only their evidence that counts (legally speaking) and I am hoping that there is some legal measure that can be invoked to stop the indiscriminate killing of these birds. I know that a small group of people, no matter how dedicated, can not remove them all to safety fast enough. I hope everyone understands what I'm trying to say.

All I'm going to say is we are doing our best to help Mary get this situation under control.

** At this point, this is who's doing what:
Mary is gathering as many pigeons as she has room for.
This morning Kim, myself & Shi will be returning to the house.
Kim & I will check EACH pigeon, that Mary has confined.
They will be separated by illness, injury & healthy. And then we'll get them the hell out of there.

Will post an update when we have a better idea of what we are dealing with in regard to the confined pigeons.

Cindy

[philodice]

I know we can't save them all, the only reason we are moving some of them is so that if the injured and colorful (unique) individuals of the flock are removed it will encourage the rest of the flock to stop coming around. With No food, no water, and no place to hide at Mary's house, and with their friends being "bird napped", the plan is to make the flock decide to go elsewhere. And it is working! Mary said fewer birds are hanging out at her place, and the number gets smaller every day. We are making progress here, taking the flock out of danger. Only 30 died yesterday, not 200 like the first time that poison got spread.

And I'm stuck at work.

[cyro51]

You are all doing a phenomenal job there. Last year we UK members had to relocate only 30 pigeons that were going to be culled and that took an incredible amount of time and organisation. I was proud of what we had achieved, but I am humbled now.

My heart aches for all the precious pigeons that were killed by those who were either too cruel or too stupid to consider humane alternatives.

Cynthia

[sabina]

OMG!!! I haven't been on the forum in awhile and of course have missed A LOT!!! This situation is unbelievable, and it goes without saying what an incredible job the AZ members, Charis, Mary et al have been doing. I have so much respect and admiration for all of you helping here!!!

I'm a little confused though as to the actual situation. So someone had 50 pet pigeons, that person passed away, the pigeons were released there? And that house was vacant until now? And a neighbor has been poisoning those pigeons? How many pigeons have been rescued? How many were poisoned?

Sorry if I'm a little slow in picking things up here The numbers seem awfully high, and I'm having trouble grasping what the whole situation is...

Sabina

[cyro51]

I'm a little confused though as to the actual situation. So someone had 50 pet pigeons, that person passed away, the pigeons were released there? And that house was vacant until now? And a neighbor has been poisoning those pigeons? How many pigeons have been rescued? How many were poisoned?

Sorry if I'm a little slow in picking things up here The numbers seem awfully high, and I'm having trouble grasping what the whole situation is...

Sabina

Actually I am the same state of confusion....

Cynthia