Bos little brother/sister

[cyro51]

Hi Bernadette,

Don't put her out until you are satisfied that she is eating and drinking on her own and that she can evade predators.

What are her poops like now? I have never seen Consuelo drink, but because her poops are moist I have to assume that she is drinking . I reckon that they will only need about 10ml a day.

Cynthia

[Athalie]

Hey Cynthia!Sorry it took a while for me to post, I had some chores to attend to. Peggy is ok, right now she’s in the guestroom comfy n cosy. After I posted the last reply I spotted the parents looking for her so I put her back outside in a fleece hood off a jacket.They stayed with her the whole afternoon fed her about 4 times, I kept an eye on them from the kitchen window. Her poops before were a bit runny and quite small about the size of a pea,but the colour was ok, brownish green with white. She pooped a nice big one since I brought her back inside. I lift seeds and water for her but she doesn’t go near it, at least from what I’ve seen. I turned the light off now in her room. She can pretty much fly now, not as high as a normal bird but she flew up on the wealy bin so I guess that’s a good start. I hope she’ll be ok now that her parents fed her. I’m having a tough time myself right now and I don’t know what I’ do if something happened to her. Thanks for all your help and support. I’ll keep posting about her progress.
Best wishes! Bernadette

[nikku-chan]

I felt the same way with pecky and drinking,
every time i tried to show her water, she shook her head and ran away. It make me feel horrible, like i was torturing her!

But i worked out after a while that she was drinking, just secretly. If she eats some seeds, surely she will want to drink. If she knows where water is, she should have some when she needs it.

If she picked something up and swallowed it, surely she will start swallowing the seeds very soon Peck with you finger at them if it doesn't scare her.

What other things do those types of doves eat? Maybe you could try different foods or foods her parents would have shown her to eat in the wild if she still isn't eating.

If her poos are bright green, it means she hasn't eaten..what colour are they?

Don't feel rejected. Peggy is just a bit older, so she is a bit more wary. I'm sure she will come around soon.

Maybe she is too big for the ready brek now. When pecky refused her baby food, it was about a day after she had learned to eat seeds. I tried several times to feed her the baby way again, but each time, she poo-pooed it.

Peggy is just doing what comes naturally...it is good that she is active, and wont stay in her box. It means she is strong and healthy. don't fret!

Just keep watching, secretly, and see what happens in private

[nikku-chan]

oh, good!
That is very good!

It will be hard to let her go. But imagine the beautiful life she can have out there. And you can still feed her in your garden, so you will know she will always have some food to come back to if she needs it

[Athalie]

Greetings everyone! I found another dove just now exactly where I found Peggy. Seems very shaken up poor thing, from what I can tell one of her wings might be broken. There were about 5 magpies just where the nest is that’s what made me look outside and I spotted this new baby. It’s about as old as Peggy,has the ring around the neck and fully grown feathers but its beak is pink. Tried giving it some water,drank a bit but seems very scared and poorly. I’ll put them both in the guestroom for now. I can’t post any more pictures, is there any way I can post them somewhere else?

[Athalie]

Hello again! I noticed the new birdie is bleeding, found blood on my hands after I put her in a basket. I found a small puncture-like wound on the top of her left wing didn’t fiddle with it too much she was very frightened and uncomfortable.What should I do to it?Dest it have to be bandaged or sanitized?Never teated a pidgie before.She’s settled down now on the bed with Peggy.I pulled the curtains so it’s a nice twilight in the room,turned up the radiator so it’s warm n cosy.I’ll let them rest for now, left water and seeds for them.Think I’ll name her Xena, she’s a fighter this one She produced two nice poops both brown with white. Hope she’ll recover,she’s very pretty.

[nikku-chan]

It seems to be baby-finding day!
I just found a baby too, with a hurt wing, and there was also a wound with some blood.

Wash your baby's wing with some dettol or similar human first aid antiseptic, and then put some antiseptic cream on. Do it as soon as possible.

I was too scared i would hurt my baby by trying to feel if the wing was broken, so i took her to a rehabber to get it checked. The rehabber said it didn't feel broken, so we didn't strap it.

Maybe if you can, you should do the same. It is better than trying to do it yourself. If not, then do a search on here, for broken wing, and there will be some info on how to feel the wing for a break and how to strap it.

How strange we both encountered a baby in our backyards with the same injury at the same time!

Mine is even a bit older than pecky was when i found her, just as yours is older than Bo.

[Athalie]

Hey Nikku!It’s great to be adoptive mommy again  I’ll run over to chemist now and get antiseptic to wash the wound.I have an antiseptic cream called SUDOCREM Antiseptic Healing Cream, it says on the gar it’s for napkin rashes, eczema, bed sores, sunburn, minor burns, surface wounds, acne and chilblains.The ingredients are Zinc Oxide Ph Eur. 15.25 %Benzyl Alcohol B.P 0.39% Benzyl Benzonate B.P 1.01% Benzyl Cinnamate 0.15 Lanolin (Hypo-Aleergenic) 4%. Also contains paraffin wax, liquid paraffin, beeswax, sodium benzonate and all kinds of stuff. Would that do to treat the wound after I rinsed it with antiseptic? Maybe some other cream I could buy? I don’t know if there are any rehabbers in this area, I will have to look on the internet for that but I can only take her tomorrow afternoon. She can move the wing and flaps it too. She’s settled down seems comfy, Peggy is keeping her company. She’s doing very well too, just been outside for a feeding, both parents fed her. I brought her back inside because I have work to do and I can’t watch her. I will take her out again with Xena at around 3 pm if the parents are around. Peggy is already flying,very proud of her 

[Athalie]

Just got back from the chemist, bought Savlon Antiseptic Wound Wash in spray. I put about 10 puffs on Xenas wing she didn’t mind, but now the whole top of her wing is bloody,might be because the feathers got wet. I gently dabbed away the exess liquid then put her in the basket on a warm gel pack wraped in fluffy fleece blanket.She’s settled down pooped a nice one too so that’s good I guess.I will try not to disturbe her today till I take Peggy out for a feeding. Hope she will recover. I’ll look for rehabbers now see if I can make an appointment. How can I post pictures? Think I ran out of space Is there any other way?

[Birdmom4ever]

The blood on the wing of the second baby concerns me. Any chance a cat took a swipe at her? If so, she needs antibiotics ASAP because cats can carry bacteria in their mouths that is fatal to birds. Any chance you can get her started on Amoxicillin? I believe it's called Clavamox there.

[cyro51]

Hi Bernadette,

Birdmom4ever is right, in fact I would get both babies on Synulox (that is the antibiotic Birdmom4ever is refering to) . I can send you some if you PM me your address, but you will not get them until Thursday at the earliest and that could be too late. I can send some for future emergencies but would take this particular dove to the Three Owls Sanctuary which is close to you and they are pigeon friendly:

Three Owls Sanctuary
Wolstenholme Fold
Norden
Rochdale OL11 5UD
Tel: (01706) 642162
Fax: (01706) 659090
24 Hour Helpline: 07973 819389

Email: info@threeowls.co.uk
Rochdale, 12.5 miles from Manchester


When I find two doves in the same place within days of each other I will let them share a cage, unless it is clear that one of them has an infection. Sharing the cage makes them feel safer and speeds up recovery.

I will also PM you the address of a pigeon friendly vet in the Manchester area.

Cynthia

[Birdmom4ever]

Thank you Cynthia for the correct medication name. I wasn't sure I remembered right, and I didn't--my bad.

Bernadette, I hope you can take these babies to the sanctuary Cynthia referred you to and in fact it's urgent that you take the injured one ASAP. It's really the best place for both of them because rehabbers are experienced at raising young doves in such a way that they don't imprint on humans and learn the survival skills they need in order to be released.

[Athalie]

Sorry if I post a bit late. Thank you for your replies. Both Peggy and Xena are ok, both been fed by the parents at least 3 times, Peggy at 3 pm Xena at 5. They both produced some pretty poops as well and look comfortable. There is very little chance that a cat could have caught her, they never come during the day because our dog is out and about and he hates cats.He doesn’t harm birds atall,I’m am sure of that. It was a magpie, they were all around the nest when I looked out the window, she couldn’t have been on the ground long, I think they would have finished her if I didn’t shoo them off. And there was a massive one on top of Peggys’ box yesterday. I will take them to the sanctuary if you say it’s best. I would have taken Xena tomorrow afternoon to have the wing checked out, that’s the only time I can go. Do you think they will be ok till then? I’ll try everything to get there earlier than 2pm. I’m very worried. They seem comfortable now, I kept the handling to a minimum so they won’t be stressed.

[Birdmom4ever]

I think they will be okay until then if you're sure it was magpies and not a cat that injured the little dove. I'd suggest leaving things as they are, with you protecting them and letting the parents feed them during the day, but the magpies worry me. If they did that much damage the first time, they could finish her off if they get to her again. I admire corvids, but they can be vicious toward smaller birds. So probably best to take the youngsters to the sanctuary.

[lil_jess]

I think you should of keep it as a pets...And when she big and become adult then release her to the wild...The parents won't take her back...Why because the parents sense are no longer there around the baby dove body...Once you touch the baby dove the parents will not recognize the sense from there baby...The parents will abandon the baby...