Domestic pigeon/dove? ... also wounded

[feralpigeon]

Here are a few links to Nooti posts clarifying US brand name of Augmentin:


http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showth...ight=Augmentin

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showth...ight=Augmentin

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showth...ight=Augmentin

fp

[feralpigeon]

Also a couple of links for those who like to have meds on hand for rehab purposes and can't find the Clavamox/Augmentin drug w/out script, it can be had @ this link w/out script. Expect ordering/shipping process to take 2 to 3 weeks.

Price/name list:

http://www.medsmex.com/xcart/custom/list_products.php

Homepage:

http://www.medsmex.com/xcart/customer/home.php

Hope this helps others not currently in emergency!

fp

[pdpbison]

A topical Antibiotic powder might be good for this in addition to other medicines adminstered orally or as may be...

Nitrofurizone ( powder) if you can get some, would be a good choice. I used to encounter a lot of large Dog eyeteeth punctures resembleing the injuries shown in the image of your Bird, and I was always pleased with the Nitrofurizone.

That, or some form of Neosporin, which would also have the benifit of meeping the area moist at the same time. Eve the regular Neosporin in-a-tube that is sold at any grocery store or drug store would be pretty good for this. Just apply every day with a clean finger tip or fresh Q-tip...

Otherwise your Bird sure looks good for someone who has slipped through the jaws of hell...

Good luck!

Very pretty Bird...


Phil
Las Vegas

[feralpigeon]

Just a thought, but if you can get the Neosporin cream as opposed to ointment it would be better for the feathers.

fp

[Ratwings]

Thanks for all the info! Huh, neosporin, I wouldn't have thought! I'll do that tomorrow.

So here's the update... I couldn't get any meds today. I was turned down by one place, and the other place for some reason couldn't fit me in. I'll call again in the morning, but I think they weren't sure if they wanted to just sell me medicine for a wild bird... understandable I guess, but I really don't see the harm in it. Oh well, what do I know!

The good news that the pigeon is doing really well. The wound looks a lot better. It seems to be closing up and scabbing a bit, certainly not as seepy and "wet" looking as when I first saw it. It is also very active, walking around, alert, warm, etc. I'm going to move it to a bigger cage tomorrow morning, since at the moment it's just in a plastic recylclables bin with a screen on top.

I really really hope I can the meds tomorrow... it would be such a shame for something like an infection to hurt this bird after it's survived an attack and is doing so well.

[pdpbison]

Hi Ratwings,


The antibiotics can be indeed quite important for injuries such as yours has.

The topical antibiotic, and, also, one for their system as a whole.

If you ca find any Pigeon Fanciers or rehabbers in your area you might do well to contact them.

Tell any Vets you are calling that you wish to take care of this Bird and see if they will allow you any courtesy as for the cost of a visit. They will reliably never merely give out meds or sell them without their having personallu examined the patient, and made the determination as to the suitiblility of the meds for the patient...

So, try and find out if a Vet will see you and the Bird, telling them up front that it is a wild Bird you rescued and intend to take care of untill it is well...and ask them what is their policy on that sort of thing.

Maybe they will see you for free or for a reduced rate, and, give you the meds or sell them to you cheap.


...where are you located?


Phil
Las Vegas

[Ratwings]

Long story short, I was able to get Baytril for the bird. I know it's not the ideal but it's better than nothing. My vet spoke with a bird vet and they gave me the Baytril, no problem. Maybe it's not technically what they are supposed to do, but I've worked with them before and they know I'm not going to make a fuss about anything. (This is the same vet I mentioned talking to yesterday, just turns out they couldn't get in touch with me before closing.) The dose is .22 cc orally 2x a day. With help from my sister (one to hold the bird, one to give meds) we were able to give it the meds very easily considering it's feeling lots better and flips out whenever I go near it! It calms once I pick it up though and doesn't struggle. What a good little bird! I also put neosporin on the wounds.

One question though. It doesn't appear to be eating very much. In fact, it seems to prefer it's food dish as a nest and a toilet. I thought maybe it wanted something to perch on, so I added a rock and a branch to it's cage. I scattered a bit of seed on the floor around the dish, thinking maybe it's not used to eating from a cup, but I still haven't seen it eat, nor do I notice any decrease in the amount of seed in the dish or on the floor. Is there anything I can do to encourage it to eat?

Thanks again for all your help.

Oh and I am located near Philadelphia PA.

[Ratwings]

Good news! I just checked on pidgie and quite a bit of food has mysteriously disappeared. I guess it got it's appetite back! I think it's happier in it's bigger cage.

[Reti]

That is great news.
He must be feeling better.

Reti

[feralpigeon]

Glad to hear the pij is feeling better and in capable hands

fp

[pdpbison]

Hi Ratwings,

Good to hear...

Sometimes when injured or ill they can seem to loose their interest in eating...always a good thing when they are interested of course..!


Phil
Las Vegas

[Ratwings]

Soooo... I think this pigeon is well on it's way to recovery! On Tuesday it will be finsihed its 10-day course of baytril. The wounds are almost completely healed and I can see the beginnings of feathers growing back in. It's eating like a horse and will put up a fight at any chance--this is no tame bird!

Now I'd like to start learning about how to know when a bird is ready to be released, and how to go about doing it.

Thanks soooo much for all the help ya'll have been so far. I couldn't have done it without you. I'm so glad I was able to help this bird!

[feralpigeon]

Hi Ratwings,

That's great news. Good news also that it's "full of it" as well. If you could do a "soft release" that would be great....if there is a spot nearby where there is a flock of pigeons that you know of, you could release there. Go by there and feed them to get them used to you. In the meantime, make sure yours has free fly time at home to get strengthened up. Then start bringing the bird in a carrier to the spot where you are feeding the flock. Withold food on yours and feed when you feed the flock. After a few times of doing this, you can feed yours w/door open and see if yours is interested in joining the flock. The last visit preferably should be in am so that if it chooses to walk out of carrier and join others, it has the day to acclimate to surroundings. Should be fine.

Best,

fp

[Trees Gray]

Originally Posted by Ratwings

Soooo... I think this pigeon is well on it's way to recovery! On Tuesday it will be finsihed its 10-day course of baytril. The wounds are almost completely healed and I can see the beginnings of feathers growing back in. It's eating like a horse and will put up a fight at any chance--this is no tame bird!
Now I'd like to start learning about how to know when a bird is ready to be released, and how to go about doing it.
Thanks soooo much for all the help ya'll have been so far. I couldn't have done it without you. I'm so glad I was able to help this bird!

Glad to hear the bird is well on its way to a full recovery.

Thank you for taking such good care of this bird.

Here is a thread that will help with the release aspect.

http:www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=10874

[pdpbison]

Hi ratwings,


Beig this is late adolescent Bird, maybe keep them a week more after you feel confident their injuries have healed.

And consider to let them loose about where you first found them if that seems sensible to do and other Birds frequent that area.

As others mentioned above, let them have plenty of opportunity to excercise their Wings and gain flight muscles and conditioning.

I have a feral nesting pair in the eves here, 12 feet up, and their two most recent Babys just yesterday made their debut!

They look not unlike yours as for age and developement, so sometimes, Birds quite 'new' to the outside World may appear at the stage of developement yours is.

These Birds of course are merely poised to acquire the learnings of their needed ad accruening experiences and associations with the society of their peers and comrades in the wilds, and sometimes get into troubles for various reasons as they are embarked in their education.

It is certaily a convenience when they may eat on their own, and many of course at this stage even, have not yet done so. Likely, lower nests or nests situated where stages of hopping or little flight of a few feet elevation, make for earlier forays to the ground.

Phil
Las Vegas