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Old 19th October 2009, 08:44 AM
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I personally use single dose Metronidazole 100mg tablets with cellulose coating for slow release of the medication. Recommendation is 25~50 mg 4~6 days and depends on the severity of the problem. Check him on the day 4 and see what is his condition. Every case is different and it is wrong to treat every bird equally.
Talk to the shelter people first and ask them if they will accept him for the winter. Outside he will not survive even if weather is above 0 for couple of days.
I did that mistake with my first rescue, released it in my garden soon after he become well. Two days later he died in my hands.
Presently temperatures for Prague are between –4 and 10 degrees Celsius, but food for young baby will be the problem because he needs to compete with much stronger birds outside. Even 10 degrees Celsius will kill starving bird.
I know well what is to live in single room apartment, so the only think I can suggest is to find someone to adopt him.
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I will talk with the guys from the shelter, after he is healthy. We are gonna keep him for one-two more weeks until he is OK.
We had to let him fly again, he was restless in the pet carrier and trying to go out, he managed to spill again the water. The good part is that he had no more diarrhoea, but we didn't give him yet the medicine (we will soon).
His neck looks better, under the wings he is so and so (still kinda of bold).
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Old 19th October 2009, 09:01 AM
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Please make sure that shelter has other pigeons too. Some of the shelters are specialized for dogs and cats only and they will accept him as ... food donation.
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Old 19th October 2009, 09:05 AM
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Please make sure that shelter has other pigeons too. Some of the shelters are specialized for dogs and cats only and they will accept him as ... food donation.
This is the shelter http://translate.google.de/translate...://www.csop.cz , from what I read with google translate they were called for 160 something pigeons and other animals. From what I read they don't deal with dogs and cats, but only with wild animals. I will contact them in a week or so to talk and make sure that they have other pigeons as well and that they can keep him over the winter.
I read there: "Just last year adopted Prague Rescue Station 1114 disabled animals. Nejčastějším zvířecím pacientem byli v loňském roce v Praze holubi domácí (176), ježci (148) a poštolky obecné (135). The most common animal patients were in the last year in Prague, pigeon (176), hedgehogs (148) and kestrel (135). Jde o nejvyšší počty přijatých zvířat v celé ČR. This is the highest number of animals taken in the whole country. Více než tisíc zraněných živočichů přijala loni pouze záchranná stanice v Bartošovicích na Moravě. "
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Old 19th October 2009, 09:41 AM
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They have all the bells and whistles web page looks promising and they have veterinary care too. Maybe I’m a bit paranoid because of my personal disappointment in Vet’s here in SA or because of the Web pages I created, but I would check with my own eyes and if it looks as it sounds, I would go for it.
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Old 19th October 2009, 11:42 AM
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They have all the bells and whistles web page looks promising and they have veterinary care too. Maybe I’m a bit paranoid because of my personal disappointment in Vet’s here in SA or because of the Web pages I created, but I would check with my own eyes and if it looks as it sounds, I would go for it.
We will check with our own eyes, before taking him. we are a bit paranoid ourselves too.
He is now very upset, we fed him by hand about 35 pieces of corn and peas (we wanted to make sure he eats well). He just stands on his feet and he is not trying to go out any more ) I think he thinks that if he'll make more noise to get out we are gonna fed him again )
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Old 19th October 2009, 09:09 PM
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He has again diarrhoea and he is not eating. It's because of the antibiotic. I am wondering if we should give him today too...
It seems he is better now in the morning, he is trying to get out of the carrier again, he is making such a noise

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Old 19th October 2009, 11:13 PM
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Go for at least for 4 days with antibiotic. Hand feed him if he doesn't eat. It is the problem with diarrhea, but if you stop in the middle of treatment, you will do more harm than good. Surviving trichomonas in his tract will become resistant to the medicine and his health will be endangered.
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Old 19th October 2009, 11:43 PM
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Go for at least for 4 days with antibiotic. Hand feed him if he doesn't eat. It is the problem with diarrhea, but if you stop in the middle of treatment, you will do more harm than good. Surviving trichomonas in his tract will become resistant to the medicine and his health will be endangered.
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I will give him today too, this is his fourth day.
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Old 20th October 2009, 03:27 PM
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Don't stop the medicine. Foy's pigeon supply says to give it for 6 to 10 days. If you don't give it to him long enough, he won't get better. Canker is serious. He can get very sick and die. Four days is not long enough I don't think. If you underdose him, it will just make the canker come back stronger.
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Old 20th October 2009, 10:36 PM
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I will give him only 4 days. He seems a lot better without the antibiotic (without the diarrhoea, not eating and feeling bad from it). His neck looks a bit better.Now he is eating OK and flying around. We will keep an eye on him though, if anything changes in his mood.
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Old 21st October 2009, 10:22 PM
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He is a lot better without the medicine. He has a lot of energy and he's eating very well. It's harder to catch him now to put him back into his carrier. He loves to stay on washing machine to clean himself and sleep
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Old 22nd October 2009, 10:04 PM
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He is doing very well. We saw that feathers are growing under his wings, so we are very happy and the neck looks very good.
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Old 27th October 2009, 10:07 PM
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I wrote to the shelter. They said they won't take him. If he can fly I should just release him and that he will learn from other pigeons.
So we will have to release him. We'll keep him for a few more days though.
The weather now is better with over 10 degrees.
He is feeling very well, eating better (picking mostly the corn which he loves) and he is flying very well. He is stronger and it's harder to catch him. His feathers are growing nicely.
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Old 27th October 2009, 10:29 PM
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They are wrong. He will die. He is young, doesn't know how to find food and shelter. He knows nothing about predators. He has no chance alone. It would be hard enough on him to be released in the springtime with other pigeons. But during the cold part of the year, and alone...............................
Are you planning on introducing him into a flock? The shelter just didn't want him, so they told you he would be fine. Either they don't know anything about pigeons, or they just simply do not care about this little one. But alone and in the cold, he will just starve and freeze to death whether you want to believe that or not. It's sad. This poor little one never had a chance.
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Old 27th October 2009, 10:33 PM
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They are wrong. He will die. He is young, doesn't know how to find food and shelter. He knows nothing about predators. He has no chance alone. It would be hard enough on him to be released in the springtime with other pigeons. But during the cold part of the year, and alone...............................
Are you planning on introducing him into a flock? The shelter just didn't want him, so they told you he would be fine. Either they don't know anything about pigeons, or they just simply do not care about this little one. But alone and in the cold, he will just starve and freeze to death whether you want to believe that or not. It's sad. This poor little one never had a chance.
I don't know why, but they don't want to take him. They just told me to release him is he's healthy and he is flying well, it's natural and he will be ok.
We were thinking of releasing him in a big park. In there we saw pigeons and there are also squirrels and some small birds and ducks. In there in the trees there are some small wood boxes with food. I saw many birds eating from them. So I think there he will have food, other pigeons and he will be away from cars.
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