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Old 10th August 2008, 08:24 PM
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Should I put the salt and sugar in the water, just to be sure......

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Old 10th August 2008, 08:36 PM
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Oh, you can, but only very little. Frankly, the reason for doing it is kinda' complex--it has to do with how their bodies react to water when they're in a serious state of dehydration. You can google the words "isotonic", "hypertonic" and "hypotonic" and note the differences. Water that has some electrolytes in it (in this case the salt) is closer to being "isotonic", or relatively neutral when it comes to comparing the minerals in the water versus the minerals in the body. Water absorbs better when it's isotonic. It's possible to give any living creature regular water when they're heavily dehydrated and it delays the uptake of the fluids, sometimes fatally--especially when fluids are given IV.

By "wilted", I mean that sometimes you get them and their little wings are hanging limply at their sides and their eyes are very sleepy because they're just about completely out of energy. Incidentally, what you eat today isn't really energy until about a day later--it takes that long before the blood sugars are absorbed by the cells and actually converted to the stuff that the cells use for energy like Adenosine Triphosphate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine_triphosphate

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Old 10th August 2008, 08:45 PM
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No, then he is not wilted....
He is cleaning himself, now, are trying too bless its heart he looks so cute trying to keep his balance!
Its almost like my husband thinks he was just getting on his own when maybe he fell from the test or something, he is unsure.
He even bold his little chest up, what does that mean?

So should I leave the water just plan or do the other, I will do whatever you tell me to do, my friend...

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Old 10th August 2008, 08:48 PM
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Sounds like plain water would be fine.

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Old 10th August 2008, 08:57 PM
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My baby wants to set in his food bowl, is that okay?
I put another bowel in with my little ine for food, so he/she could have the bowel to set in, if its okay, but i wanted to ask you!!!!
Im so very sorry thaat I have so many questions and so many worries.....

Can you over feed the baby?
Should we feed the babay every hour or what schedule should we follow?

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Old 10th August 2008, 09:05 PM
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Pigeons have "crops". That's a sack-like area of the esophagus. If we had one, it'd be on our necks before the piping when down through the shoulders into the stomach. It holds more food than they can actually crowd into their stomachs (they've got two of those in a row--one that puts in the chemicals and one that does the chewing) so you can tank 'em up to go for several hours at a time at that age.

Yes, you can certainly overfeed one, but if you get a tablespoon down, you won't be. Try to feed him three times per day but keep on him to learn how to do it himself. Frankly, he's a little young to be doing that but they certainly can at that age. You're just wanting to keep him going with this stuff and you'll later augment what he's eating with either some special pellets or some Kaytee or equivalent formula.

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Old 10th August 2008, 09:14 PM
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So are you saying that he stll needs formula too?

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Old 10th August 2008, 09:34 PM
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Or some good nutritional pellets. I suppose that some would even say that puppy chow pellets would work at this stage. It's just something to give him a little extra nutrition that he might not get from seeds alone at this stage of the game.

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Old 10th August 2008, 09:49 PM
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What would ypu say, please tell me what you would do and I will follow, because I want the baby t live...
And thank you so much for all your help, conern, advice just everything
you are so awesome!!!!

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Old 10th August 2008, 10:03 PM
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Oh, there are lots of different ways to do it. I did such a poor job on my first one and she still turned out just fine (albeit spoiled). This one sounds in pretty good shape if it's preening and the other stuff you describe. If you find pellets at the pet store, then get the smallest package that you can. There might be some really small ones by Harrisons like these:

http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/pr...x.html#ANCHOR1

(probably the High Potency Fine)

...or maybe some from Zupreem, Hagens or some other one that I don't even know about. And there's always the puppy chow if you get desperate.

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Old 11th August 2008, 06:59 AM
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can you give us an update on the baby?
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Old 11th August 2008, 09:34 AM
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Pidgey, thank you so much for all your help, care, advice, suggestions and understanding, you were and are so awesome.
So sorry about not replying last night with your last message, my computer froze.
Im on my way to the store to llok for Harrisons High Potency Fine pellets, wish me luck...
Baby, is just a chirping, moving around and doing pretty good...
Chris, thanks for asking, my little one seems to be doing okay, but I think I still need all the help I can get!
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Old 11th August 2008, 09:43 AM
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Old 11th August 2008, 11:37 AM
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Dearest Friends.....

I must have the most horrible pet stores, in this area!
I have been everywhere and every place can order it the Harrions High Potency Fine Pellets but it will take 2 weeks or so to get here!!!

Pet Co, did have something called Avian Maintance, would that be okay?

Please advise......

AlwaysThank you so much Renne, but please keep praying for my baby and me, that i will not let it down!!!

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Dearest Friends.....

I must have the most horrible pet stores, in this area!
I have been everywhere and every place can order it the Harrions High Potency Fine Pellets but it will take 2 weeks or so to get here!!!

Pet Co, did have something called Avian Maintance, would that be okay?

Please advise......

AlwaysThank you so much Renne, but please keep praying for my baby and me, that i will not let it down!!!

NuttyBugg

Robin, what are you feeding the baby right now? I don't think that pellets are absolutely necessary.........they would be good of course, but it's not a life or death situation. The protein is what you are after really for this little guy. I've never fed my birds pellets. Well, I tried them once and they wouldn't eat them. I can't even get them where I am, so I don't bother. My birdies do just fine. I googled Avian Maintenance and all I found was a fruitblend. Pigeons aren't fruit eaters really.
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