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#16
2nd January 2007, 03:36 AM
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Poops seem fine to me - it could be eating as the dark colour will be the food and the white the urea.
They seem solid thus it could be that it is eating the seed while you are not looking or just before you found it. I say this as I have hand reared quite a few and the poop always seems very watery when on the mixture. Although Phil should be back later as he is the expert on poops (LOL) Dove is also my thought, but the tail seems longer in relation to the body than the doves I know.... Last edited by Jiggs; 2nd January 2007 at 03:41 AM. 
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#17
2nd January 2007, 08:01 PM
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Hi Mandy, all,
Thanks Jiggs for the compliment..! - I wish I were an 'expert' in poops, but this is not so. However, it is always good to ask, as the poops of course can tell us some things clearly, some things ambiguously/vaguely, and some things by hint or inference or clue or even intuition, which may be redundant...so...I say, they are never to be ngelected any more than is looking at the rest-of-the new-arrive or 'patient' Bird, or any Bird we are wondering as to the condition of. No poops, of course tell us that either the Bird has not eaten in a good while, is seriously dehydrated, or, that their system is in some temporary suspension of functions...'dangerous' either way if 'so'...or needing deferences anyway. Terry, nice forward on the 'Cookoo Dove' mention! ...sure looks like a good bet to me. So, golly...what a little cutie this Dove is! Quite the countenance of adolesence there... Mandy, of course let us know if she is eating and how she seems and all that? As these are eaters of both Seed and of various small fruiting-bodys of plants or trees and so on, if your clime is one in which such fruits ( and 'green Seeds' ) are presently available, maybe ask some local Bird Groups or Bird watchers or Audobon ( sp?) for more details about the diet of these kinds of Doves, and see about going out and picking on-the-stem, some of the typical kinds of things this Dove would be eating in the wilds. I myself find semi-dried 'Goji-Berries' to be enjoyed by every kind of Bird I have ever had pass through these rooms, and of course for Doves, or any smaller kind of Bird, these Berries should be cut into small bite-sized pieces, or even pre-soaked to make them soft and puffy-ish. Fresh Greens such as Kale, Endive, Chards, Cilantro ( skip Spinach I think, and of course forget Lettuces as we know them, ) Beet-Tops, Carrot-Tops...all are good choices for any Doves or Pigeons or Columbiforms of any kind far as I know. Is she has difficuly tearing off right-size, bite-size bits from the whole Leaf or bunch ( fastened if need be with some twist-tie to something stable) , just tear off tiny bits for her, and she will become a more able brouser with practice. Some kinds of dried Sea Weeds are excellent also, and Doves ( and Pigeons, and everyone else of a grazing kind) like them, but these should be the ones which do not taste too much of Salt, or of Salt at all if one can, and, which are able ( thin enough,) to be torn off into little bites by their Beaks, or which one can shred with the fingers into little bits, or sort of 'grind' between one's palms to render into coarse flakes of a small size for them. Tiny 'fruits', Berrys, fruiting-bodys of various Plants and low 'Weeds' or Trees, and various fresh or dried Greens, are important parts of the diets of the Wild Doves and Pigeons 'here', yet almost nothing is ever mentioned in any literature I ever found, which otherwise presumes to respect their Natural Historys. So, my own opinion is that they are likely fine for any columbiform of any sort, with emphasis of course on whatever foods their kind is known to rely on most, if sometimes with regard to the Season at hand. Had your area suffered a Storm prior to your finding her? She seems a little buffetted maybe... Rambley... Best wishes! Phil Las Vegas
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#18
2nd January 2007, 09:13 PM
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Hi folks,
Unless I'm mistaken, I see white on this little one's wing in the first picture posted by Mandy. The cuckoo dove pictures from the link show no white whatsover on the wing(s). I wouldn't think that only the youngsters have white and that it goes away as it becomes an adult.
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#19
2nd January 2007, 09:32 PM
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Hi Everyone.
Well, she seems to be getting her "spunk" back. She'll still sit on my finger, but is now looking for an escape. The back sliding glass door seems very inviting to her.  She's eyeballing it, but hasn't tried to slam into it yet.It was quite windy the day I found her, but not exactly a storm. But it's always windy at that particular beach and I don't remember a day that I've been there that it has been any less. Anyway, I think she's eating from the seed tray now. I got up this morning and the seed had indents in it. It's not quite the right stuff, (budgie), but I'll go out a bit later and get her some wild bird seed. I'm sure she will pick out the yummy bits and leave the rest. The pet shop owner should have an appropriate seed mix. Looks like a shopping list! LOL I will definately try each thing that I can. She doesn't like orange. Her droppings are a little watery at the moment, but that could be the baby food I gave her yesterday. I'll keep an eye on her, but she's still alert. Mandy
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#20
2nd January 2007, 09:41 PM
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Sounds like a pretty good update on the dove.  Do be very careful that she doesn't try to fly full force into the sliding glass doors, this could really hurt her. Do you mean she doesn't like the colour orange? Yes, the formula would have affected her poops and so will a change of diet from what she is used to eating. It should straighten itself out in a few days. You could offer her a bath in a little tub, she might appreciate that as well
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#21
2nd January 2007, 10:37 PM
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Hi Mandy,
Yes, lightly drape or in some way obscure any 'clear' or potentially 'inviteing' Windows or Glass Doors... She is quite capable, or soon will be, of taking of with startlleing sudden-ness, and potentially flying right into such Glass, thinking it is merely an opening to the out of doors. Of course, this can be hurtful or fatal for them...so... Cover any such Glass with some light fabric or thin paper or even 'mist' it a few times with very soapy water so it becomes decidedly opaque...or tape Wax-Paper over it... Too, if you have her in a Cage, you should consider to line the top of the Cage with some soft, thick foam rubber, (used pieces to be had free, usually anywhere which does re-upoldstry work ) or at least several layers of soft cloth basted to stay up and allowed to be sagging somewhat. Doves, 'Wild' Doves anyway, once feeling 'better' can launch themselves straight 'up' with the slightest pretext, and if in a cage, they can hurt or kill themselves with hitting the inside cage top... It may be she was somewhat stunned for a time, effected by something somehow, and will now progressively rally and resume her Wild propensitys...so... Good luck..! Phil Las Vegas
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#23
2nd January 2007, 11:14 PM
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Sorry folks,
I'm not convinced that this is a brown cuckoo dove and Mandy mentioned the black and white underside of the tail feathers. I'd lean more towards the spotted turtle dove than the brown cuckoo dove, but this youngster is mysterious. Here is a link to wild Australian doves: http://www.ozbirds.com/OzBirds/index...dae#Columbidae Quote:
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#25
3rd January 2007, 08:12 AM
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Hi Mandy sorry I haven't seen your post till recently, My mum inlaw lives in Paradise and I am pretty sure this little guy is a baby ring neck, she feeds about 100-125 daily two times a day. She also feeds turtle doves, top notch pigeons. This one definately looks like a little ring neck and yes it is still a juvenille, as Steve Irwin would say what a little cutie
The birds I have seen the last 3 times I was there resemble your new found friend. If you need help let me know I may have someone over there that could help you out. Here is my e-mail address if you need help. naturegirl66@charter.netThanks Cindy
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Cindy  They are not rats with wings and they feel pain like you and me. Save our beloved Pigeons without people like us their numbers would be less. God Bless to Pigeon Lovers
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#26
3rd January 2007, 10:39 AM
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 I know those few sentences didn't take you long at all and considering your new and improved typing skillsI'm now ready to do battle with you Wonder Woman...meet, Robot Man and his nuclear powered pigeon sidekick, "Eggbot" heheheh. Cindy, you may be right about this dove being a ring neck dove, but I'm still wondering about the white strip I see on it's wing. Ring necks don't have this and unless I'm seeing something that isn't there. Secondly, ring necks don't have black and white on the underside of their tailfeathers Last edited by Pigeonpal2002; 3rd January 2007 at 12:14 PM.
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#27
3rd January 2007, 11:31 AM
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Brad,
I love Eggbot, but the last time I saw a picture of that guy...he was much better looking. As long as that is a pigeon on your shoulder then we are on the same side. You created W.W. and the minute you layed the WHITE PIGEON OF JUSTICE on her shoulders, She and her Super Hero Friends; Shi (Scorpio Power) and Mr. Squeaks (THE CAPED ONE) have battled for the rights of pigeons. Last edited by Feather; 3rd January 2007 at 04:48 PM.
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#28
3rd January 2007, 12:17 PM
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I am without a face these days, I lost it in an epic battle, thank you for the nice compliment though I'm like the Batman of super heros...a little on the "dark" side....fighting for good but also a little mysterious We WILL meet again......Ha, ha, haaaaaaa
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#29
3rd January 2007, 04:29 PM
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Yes, we've discovered the straight up flying. I've got her sitting on an old towel right near the back sliding door, about half way up on a cupboard. She seems so much happier there. The cage seems to make her go all funny, so I moved her. Last night, I was sitting there watching TV (and watching her out of the corner of my eye) and could see her eyeballing my way. She launched, bounced off the ceiling a couple of times and landed on the top of the microwave. I went over, she perched on my finger and we gave her some water from a syringe with a tube on the end. She then settled. She doesn't like drinking from the cup (I've bought two large bird cups for food and water) and I think she's used to mum giving her a bed time drink. I go back to work next week, but the kids are home until school holidays finish, so someone will be able to tend to her for another 3 weeks. Hopefully, she'll be fully able to help herself to food and water by then - I know I could take her to work, but I don't think the 45 minute drive each way and all day in an office would be good for her. Anyway, it's end of night 3 and she's still healthy and happy, so I must be doing something right. I'll get some wild bird seed today, as she has been pecking at the budgie seed which I've scattered on the towel, but she needs something more substantial. Her poops are firm but tiny. At least she's not in shock. I've rescued other birds in the past, but they've been either hurt so badly or go into so much shock they've never lasted very long. I was just reading about ring-necked doves, and yes, she does seem very simliar in colouring. And during my reading, I found they can live for 20 - 30 years! Wow! A pet for life. Well, off to get some food. More later. Mandy
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#30
3rd January 2007, 08:08 PM
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Hi Mandy,
Try offering her Water which is 'tepid' or near Body Temperature... When young, the Water they recieve form their parents is 'warm'....and when we offer Water to them which is not warm, it can throw them off. So, try a little Bowl of tepid Water, and see how she does... Glad to hear it goes well...! 'Peck' with her even, with some Seeds in a little pile on a light color Towell... Use your crook'd i ndex finger tip, and 'peck'...keep your hand and arm low, below her eye level in all of this... This also is a component of their Nature - In the Wilds, when learning to eat on their own, they never are obliged to so so alone, there are their parents and siblings or others immediately next to them, shoulder-to-shoulder even, pecking also, so... "Peck-peck-peck...!" Have fun..! Phil Las Vegas
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