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Thanks Jay. I did get them to swallow a little water but one was attacking the dropper and the other as literally shaking she was so scared. I put them back in and they both were falling asleep. I think they have just been through so much. So odd. Anyway I iwll try again in the morning. Thanks so much. You have been a lifesaver!
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Good morning Barb, as I emailed you that I would, I just got up and came in to check. Keep working on dipping the beak, and get the peas and corn. Once they get used to it, they can usually pick them up more easily than seed. They should soon be picking them up on they're own. You need to get them to drink so they don't get dehydrated, and then you need to get food into them. They will get weak quickly without food and water. Let us know how that goes. You can call me if you need to. I'm sure more people will be in today to help. Thanks again for staying with it. Will you be bringing them to work? That way you could keep trying. Just keep them warm and in a quiet place. Maybe you will be able to reach one of those places this morning.
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Sorry for delay, I was making for living.
 Yeah, 20-ish something days would be my guess too. If you soak defrosted corn and peas in water and give them moist they will manage without much water. If you decide to give water with dropper, drop by drop in the front side of the mouth, not in the throat as the may choke. After day or two they'll get used to procedure, pigeons are incredibly adaptable, soon will call you Mammy 
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Sorry for not updating everyone. I did not hear from anyone in my area so I had to take them to a Wildlife Center yesterday. I just called and was told both had to be put down. They said they did a test and they had a disease that attacks the throat and it actually closes so they would not be able to eat. There was no mention that there was a treatment for this. Both had full grown feathers so they were not babies but were too weak to fly. I feel terrible that they didn't have a chance at geting better, but I am grateful they did not die starving to death.
Thank you Jay for all of you help and staying up with me until 4:30am. I just wish I could have done more. Is there really a disease out there that would cause their throat to close? Is there a treatment for it?
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The only thing I can think of that would be in their throat would be canker, which is very treatable. They were both babies, around a month old.If the wildlife center didn't know that, than they don't know much about pigeons. Many places are not pigeon friendly. Where was it that you took them? One of them had some feather loss which made me wonder if they had canker.
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Barb, right now I'm feeling very upset about this. There are many places that don't even bother if it is a pigeon. They were just babies, regardless of what they told you, and they died for nothing. They just didn't want to be bothered, and that is the truth. There is medicine for canker and it is very treatable. In a weeks time, they'd have been well again. You can't just drop them off at a wild life center, as some of them will just kill them rather than give them a pill a day for 5 days. That is just so sad. I want to know the name of the place, so that people with pigeons can be told NOT to go there with a pigeon. We need to know where we can bring a sick bird, and where we can't. Please get back to me with this information. We both stayed up until after 4:00 in the morning, and they couldn't even give them a few pills. So sad.
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It's not a disease but a treatable single cell parasite that most pigeons have in their system. Most often there is improvement after 1 dose. I'm sorry for the ignorance. I'm sorry these babies died because of it. It just makes me want to cry.
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I'm sorry if anyone feels my ignorance led to the death of these birds. I tried to find help other than the Wildlife Care Center and could not get any. I was very upset after reading this last posting because I have been in rescue for over 10 years and always tried to avoid putting any animal down. I was able to speak with someone from the clinic and was told the birds did have the canker, but they were too far gone physically to save them. They would have treated them if they thought they had a chance of surviving. Whether this was true or not I do not know, but I did all I could. they said they would have died in another day or so on their own. If anyone knows of someone I can contact in the South Florida area for the future please let me know. To date no one has contacted me to offer any assistance.
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They didn't tell you the truth. They just didn't bother. We have treated birds REALLY bad with canker. Even very young babies have been treated, and lived. I had one that was so bad, only 2 weeks old. She had such a blockage in her throat that I could hardly get formula down. It took a couople of weeks of hand feeding, and medication, but she lived. Those birds were not that bad in the picture. And they have no way of knowing that they would not have responded to medicine. They usually do. I'm sorry, but they lied to you. I know you really tried with them. I was talking to you all night. Not your fault. But I'm very angry with them for what they did. I know that you would have done anything you could to save them if you had known. When I find references for your area, I'll get them to you. This happens all the time. People in some of these places just don't care if it's only a pigeon. That's why you need to make sure they are pigeon friendly before going to them with a bird. Thanks for trying so hard. I'll get back to you.
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