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Old 6th May 2005, 07:30 PM
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Hello, My name is George and I am new to this site. I found a baby pigeon today about an hour ago. I live in Toronto and the time right now is 10:26pm. I have never taken care of a pigeon. Could anyone give me some helpful pointers on how to care for this baby pigeon, until it is big enough to fly on its own and feed itself?
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Old 6th May 2005, 07:44 PM
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Hi George and thank you so much for helping this baby pigeon! I moved your post to its own thread where you will get the attention needed.

Keep the baby very warm and hydrated. We need a bunch more details in order to really help you .. how old/young is this baby? Feathers or none? Self eating drinking or not? Please post back and we will help to the best of our ability.

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Old 6th May 2005, 07:59 PM
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Hi GeorgeB.,

Thanks again for helping this baby pigeon. I'm posting a link for you here to
assist you in determining the age of this baby pigeon:

http://www.speedpigeon.com/baby_racing_pigeon.htm

Hope this helps you in providing some of the needed info to members.

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Old 6th May 2005, 10:08 PM
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Thebaby pigeon 20 to 22 days old.


The baby pigeon is about 20 to 22 days old. I went to the local drug store and picked up a plastic syringe and some baby mixed cereal formula. I mixed the formula with some milk and warmed it up a bit. I tried to feed the baby pigeon with the syringe by placing a little bit of the cereal paste on the tip of its beack but it did not eat it.
What should I do. I do not know the last time it has eaten anything.
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Old 6th May 2005, 10:27 PM
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The baby pigeon is about 20 to 22 days old. I went to the local drug store and picked up a plastic syringe and some baby mixed cereal formula. I mixed the formula with some milk and warmed it up a bit. I tried to feed the baby pigeon with the syringe by placing a little bit of the cereal paste on the tip of its beack but it did not eat it.
What should I do. I do not know the last time it has eaten anything.
Hi GeorgeB, discontinue the milk and use water for thinning.
Here is a link w/detailed instructions for feeding babies:

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=9918

Others will be along to assist you further, please feel free to ask all the questions you need to.

Here is the link to PT's resource page:
http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/f25/

Best,

fp

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Old 6th May 2005, 10:31 PM
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Hi George,

Thank you for your efforts here in helping this young pigeon. However, milk is a no-no for birds, they can't digest it properly Just mix the cereal with luke warm water for now and you're going to have to try to coax it to eat from you. Try bending a spoon into a scoop shape or putting a balloon over the end of a thin champagne flute. Put the formula in the flute or shot tube or whatever you have, cover the end with a rubber balloon and cut a slit into the rubber. Fasten the balloon to the glass, flute with an elastic band. Then try to guide the babies beak into the slit to get it to slurp out the cereal from within.
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Old 6th May 2005, 10:38 PM
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What is a proper nest for a baby pigeon around 20 to 22 days old..


I placed the pigeon in a cardboard box. The box is one and a half for both height and width, the length is about two feet long. In the box I placed some old pajama cloth in the corner for a nest. The pigeon seems comfortable. Does this sound ok so far?
In regards to the pigeon it has dark feathers. The head has a tiny bit of fluff.
The following link helped out alot in guessing it approximate age:
http://www.speedpigeon.com/baby_racing_pigeon.htm

It looks like it could be about 21 days old. It's about the size of a mango if that helps and its beak is long.
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Old 6th May 2005, 10:59 PM
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Hi GeorgeB,

If you have a heating pad, place it underneath the cardboard box w/towel over
it and set to low. Sounds like you're doing a great job with this little baby so far. How about the feedings. Were you successful @ all in getting this little
one to eat? If so, can you guestimate approximately how much the baby was
able to take in?

Thanks,
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Old 6th May 2005, 11:09 PM
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Hi George,

I have to run but you are in capable hands here if needed. I see you're in Toronto, I'm close by but not close enough. There is a girl here and a moderator, also from Toronto that might be able to assist you in finding a shelter for this pigeon at the least. Her name is Mary and you can email her at Mary_pigeons@hotmail.com She was on just a bit ago but seems to have signed off. Please email her in the morning for further instructions and advice on how to handle this situation.


Good luck!
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Old 6th May 2005, 11:09 PM
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Sorry, I do not have a heating pad.


Sorry, I do not have a heating pad, but I place an old blanket under and around the cardboard box. Hopefully that will help retain some heat and I will add some more cotton pajamas inside of the box.
The pigeon did not go for the food.
Also I should mention the box is on my balcony out of harms way. Would it be better to bring it inside or is it better for the pigeon to have fresh air?
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Old 6th May 2005, 11:19 PM
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Sorry, I do not have a heating pad, but I place an old blanket under and around the cardboard box. Hopefully that will help retain some heat and I will add some more cotton pajamas inside of the box.
The pigeon did not go for the food.
Also I should mention the box is on my balcony out of harms way. Would it be better to bring it inside or is it better for the pigeon to have fresh air?
Hi GeorgeB,

Yes, I think it would be best to bring it inside and place in a warm, draft free
room possibly the bathroom, or at least if you have other pets, in a room separate from other pets so as not to scare the baby. Thanks again for all of
your time and effort to help this little one.

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Old 7th May 2005, 12:30 AM
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Some good news.


I have named the baby pigeon "Curbie", since I found the pigeon hudled by the curb of my apartment driveway. Lucky it wasn't it by a car.

I brought the baby pigeon in the box inside to keep it warmer. The good news is that ate some of the food I gave it, about two or three gulps. I think it feels more comfortable, cause as I am writing this the pigeon is moving around a bit in the box. After I fed it, I stepped out of the room and when I came back the pigeon was standing and looking up at me. I tried to feed it again but it turned away from me.

I will try again in a little while.
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Old 7th May 2005, 01:24 AM
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Hi George,


Good work...!


Just as a small footnote, insulation is not the same when young Birds are not yet reliably endothermic. I do not remember at this moment at what age in days they begin, generally, to reliably make their own body heat well enough, but this one is certainly around the age when they would do so. None the less, being he/she is stressed and has had some rough days with likely slim chow, some manner of provideing warmth would be a good idea.

So, bringing them 'in' and as was mentioned above, have them in some draft free place, and ideally, some warm place since you do not have a Heating Pad.

This is an age where young Pigeons are j-u-s-t learning to fly, and often get into troubles if they became seperated from their patents, since their ability to fly well kind of preceeds their learning to eat by themselves, verses being fed by their parents.

So, your intervention is a very important save for this little one.

You will have fun with this involvement...they are little sweeties...

Phil
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Old 7th May 2005, 04:39 AM
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What should I feed the Baby Pigeon (Curbie)


It's 7:27am, I feed the baby pigeon (who I named Curbie) a little bit. I will stop by a pet store today to pick up some proper food. What should I feed it. I have been feeding it (Heinz Baby Cereal Mix). Plus, I am worried that if I leave Curbie out on the balcony, it might try to fly a fall off and I live 10 floors up.
Curbie is currently in a cardboard box in my bedroom. That is the only safe place for it because I have three cats. I do not let my cats in the bedrooms or onto the balcony.
George
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Old 7th May 2005, 05:21 AM
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If the cats have no access to the bedroom, I would leave Curbie there. He will be safer than on the balcony.
Any seeds would be good for now. Wild bird seeds or pigeon/dove mix seeds would be ideal, but since he is not eating by himself yet, small seeds would be preferable. Seems like baby pigeons start feeding on small seeds first. You could get him for now some parakeet seeds from the pet store.

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