Help are my eggs dead?!!?!?!?!?

[Pigeon123123]

i thnk it has been 19 but they don't even look big at all what are they supposed to look like before they hatch? how big?

[horseart4u]

Originally Posted by Pigeon123123

yeah, they are warm and i am turning them 3 times a day and candling them everyday.
and i am not sure that they are growing much i don't see a bird figure all i see in a dark spot resembling a ball.... is that normal?

do you see any heart beat? does the veins look red and good nothing really dark that you can't see, the ball could be the baby growing, i wouldn't pick them up everyday either, oh and do you have a bowl of water next to them, it will help with the moisture for eggs to hatch.. so how many days from time you noticed them to you having them now..they could be still growing if you still see veins..trust me if they die the egg will b so dark inside you wont see anything when you candle, but that also could be them at almost full term, so depending on when they were laid like i said it could be 17 to 21 days for them to hatch.

[Pigeon123123]

i never saw a heart beat, yes there is a bowl of water next to them. and it is almost so dark that i cant see anything, some of the veins are red but the majior vein is dark.

[horseart4u]

you wont see them candling for sure..they will be close to full term, egg will be solid and a very pale blueish color when they are ready to hatch..give them some time..

[spirit wings]

If the eggs were abandoned or not sat on because the hen is gone they may not hatch.. they need 100.4 temps, all you can do is wait, if it is real hot there they may take longer to hatch..or if the temps drop..like at night they prolly won't make it. if they do who is going to feed them ? is the male bird still around?

[Pigeon123123]

i will post a picture but in the pictures te
they look a bit darker and u cant see much detail

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by Pigeon123123

i will post a picture but in the pictures te
they look a bit darker and u cant see much detail

there is most likely embryos in them..if you can not keep them at at least 100f there is not much you can do about them.. if they do hatch who is going to feed them?

[Jay3]

Even if they did hatch, their chances of surviving are very slim.

[horseart4u]

as long as you are seeing veins i would wait...major vein could be thebaby growing, you said you saw what looked like a ball? that could be baby to, they do move around a bit in egg so when you candle they will look different everytime...give them some time , like said could be late bloomers keep us post ok,

[Pigeon Dude]

Originally Posted by Pigeon123123

I had been feeding pigeons on my balcony 2 mates. the girl decided to lay her nest on my balcony and later abandoned them 9 days later. we think she was shot. i took in the 2 eggs and put them in a tub on a pillow above a heater. and a towel over it. i heard from somewhere that you put a bowl of water inside the tub for moisture. i have candled them and i see veins and a developed embrio. They move and twitch alot. but they look small this is the first time i have raised eggs or birds but i don't know what size pigeon eggs are supposed to be. the eggs are very small and the embrio inside is about less than and inch. today is it's 13 day. i think i see a beak.... not sure
and one of them looks like it is split in 2 it still moves and twitches but it is like 2 balls are in there.... both of the halves move so what is it? is it a pull pigeon embrio that i just cant see because it is in deep? or is it split in half O.o ?

I am pretty sure that the 2 moving things you were seeing were either air sacks and a heart or two air sacks. When the embryo develops, all you see is a shadowed area wit a bright end, where the uteral sac thing ends. In your other posts you mentioned not seeing movement. If the egg is getting dark, there is a chance that the embryo has gotten big enough to fill his/her little area and is not just a big blobby shadow until he and she finally hatch.

It gets confusing trying to pin-point what day the egg is on. I'd wait this out, if I were you.

Please dig around on this site for instrux on how to hand feed baby pigeons.

I think there is a pretty good chance that you may very well have kept atleast one of these eggs alive. If it doesn't work out, at least you gave it your best effort.

[Pigeon123123]

they are at a 99f level. i am planning to care for them.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by Pigeon123123

they are at a 99f level. i am planning to care for them.

where are the eggs for them to be 99f?...you have an incubator?

[Pigeon123123]

the male bird is still around and comes to eat on my balcony but he never sat on the eggs to begin with and he took no interest in them.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by Pigeon123123

the male bird is still around and comes to eat on my balcony but he never sat on the eggs to begin with and he took no interest in them.

ok lets try again.
where are the eggs for them to be 99f?...you have an incubator?

[Pigeon123123]

uploading pics