HELP! baby pidgeon think he's dying

[shibby69]

thanks, ill do that

ill be back online in a few hours

[Trees Gray]

I have e-mailed Cynthia in the UK to help, in case this is a woodie...and I will check back also...

[shibby69]

i gave him the bird food in a very thin consistency and he even had trouble with swallowing that, he is looking weak again, and keeps shaking his head.

[Pigeonpal2002]

Hi Shibby,

What kind of formula are you using, what are you using to adminster and how are you heating it?

It should be very well mixed, very thin consistancy for now and make sure it's not too warm. Don't use a microwave to heat it. Make sure you go slowly and get the tube or eyedropper far back past the opening behind his tongue.

[cyro51]

hello,

Have you had a good look inside his mouth and throat? It could be that he has canker, that will show up as a yellow/brownish/greyish growth. Let me know if that is the problem, it can be treated.

Warmth is important at the moment as he must not use what litlle energy he has trying to keep warm. I use an ordinary lamp overnight as a hot water bottle losses heat.

I can send you some stuff that is supposed to prevent sick birds from starving if you e-mail me your address...my e-mail is c.roberts26@ntlworld.com

We have a memberr in Northampton if you can get the pigeon there. I will e-mail you my telephone number(s).

Cynthia

[shibby69]

hi.... he is still okay, and seems to be improving. i am refilling the bottle every hour and he is very warm. i have noticed he only closes his good eye when i open the box (light in his eye)... he is okay with the fluids now, and has had a bite to eat.

i'm only 16 and don't drive so there is no way i can get him to nothampton tonight. i start college tomorrow, i'll be up at 6 am. i'll feed and give the bird fluid through the night. he has thick yellow stuff at the back of his throat, and one of his eyes are closed shut with it.

what else can i do for him... its going to be a long night, and i have an early start, but ill do anything that i can to help the bird...

[cyro51]

Hi Shibby,

That thick yellow stuff is canker and unless it is treated it will block the esophagus and the baby will starve or it will block the trachea and it will suffocate. Sorry to sound dramatic, but that is what happens.


The medication that it needs is called Spartrix. I can post you some tomorrow first thing if you let me have your address. It can clear the canker within a few days, so the prognosis is good with treatment.

Cynthia

[shibby69]

thankyou very much for your kind offer i have sent you my address. the baby is sleeping at the minute. i feel awful that i cant do more to help him, but i am doing my best

[Pigeonpal2002]

Hi Shibby,

Don't feel bad, you ARE doing your best and that is all anyone can do. Nobody wants to fail an animal when trying to help them but one can only do so much with the resources and knowledge available to them at the time

[cyro51]

Keeping him warm , hydrated and feeding him the formula little and often is the best that any of us could do at the moment. I am certain that he is feeling safe and warm. With canker you have to be patient.

Whatever you do don't try to remove the canker from his mouth, that could cause a bleed.. I will get the meds in the post tomorrow, with any luck they will be with you by Tuesday.

Cynthia

[pdpbison]

Hi shibbley69...

Time, sadly, is often of the essese when quite young or frail Birds are ill, or, when they have Canker.

There are many medications suitable, some more ideal than others, for this ailment.

Dimitridazole, aka 'Emtryl'...'Spartrix' ( as mentioned above)...Metronidazole...others too...

Ronidazole is thought kindest to those very young...also 'Citromed' which I have used with success with Babys or others.


I suggest you do your best to find some which you can begin adminstering a.s.a.p.

If there are any concerns near you who sell supplies for Poultry or Livestock, or, any Veterinarians, especially if any avian Veterinarians or Poultry Veterinarians or even livestock Veteriarians as may be...they should have o hand some orders of medications of an anti-Trichomoniasis variety which will answer for this. Canker is Trichomoniasis ( not to be confuses with Triconosis...)

Any Pigeon Racers or Pigeon Keepers or fanciers likewise may have some on hand...please, do your best to locate and find them and ask them for local sources or for some favor respecting the needed medications for this.

Very young Birds often perish quickly from this, and one day lost to waiting is one day too many.

This protozoan illness is as-we-speak, eating away tissue and organs surrounding it's infestation points. If progressed to the point as you describe, this Bird may not have another day left unless meds are administered now.

See what you can find a.s.a.p. now...

I think it is likely late afteroon where you are, so...still, see what you can come up with calling various Vets and or asking them also if they know of any Pigeon Clubs of any kind or private parties who are into Pigeons...people who might have on hand the requuisite meds for this...where you might be able to meet them somewhere and get what you need.


Good luck...!

Ronidazole is possibly the ideal choice for one this young, but any of the anti-Tricomona anti-protozoan kinds will do in a pinch.


Phil
Las Vegas

[shibby69]

bad news.

i gave my mum the instructions to care for the bird whilst i was at college. i had to go, and rang every hour to check on him. he cannot hold up his head and is very weak

pdpbison... i have only just found your post, and i will try and get what i can asap

i will keep him warm and give him the glucose mix and find some medicine whilst i wait for the medicine that cyro51 is sending.

thankyou for the help. i'll do my best with this little one

[Trees Gray]

You can give him a very thin mixture of the baby bird formula. He needs all the nutrition you can get in him. Give it very slowly. Make sure it runs to the back of throat or any area where it is still open enough where it can get past the obstruction.

[shibby69]

i am deeply sorry to be typing this, but the little pigeon has just died. i was on the phone to the vet about medicine, and he died.

im really sorry i couldnt save him everyone, i tried so hard.

r.i.p little pigeon, may you fly in heaven as you never did on earth.

[feralpigeon]

Dear Shibby69,

I'm so sorry about the loss of your little pigeon. You certainly tried your best to help and that's is what matters. Your parting words and wishes for this little one says it all.

Thanks for caring,

fp