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Old 11th April 2007, 07:23 PM
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climb over the divider! i'm sure your neighbors would rather have you do that than keep the pijjie there! poor thing looks hurt bad, and some heat and safety could very well save it's life!! poor thing, and THANKS FOR HELPING!!!
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Old 11th April 2007, 08:29 PM
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If the youngsters are about 3 weeks old I am surprised there are not two more eggs in the nest, this could be the hen and she is calcium deficient and or egg bound.

If the bird was able to slide under the balcony is there away that you can make a home made net to get over the bird, it is pretty simple to do, you need a broom, tape, a clothes hanger, a pair of nylons, or a shirt that you can tie or tape the arms shut on the sleeve and the body part, I find it easier just to tie them shut with a big old teeshirt. Make a circle out of the wire hanger leaving a strip of the hanger straight so that you can tape it to the handle of the broom, then take the nylon/panty hoses and wrap them around the circle of the hanger and if needed you can use some tape to hold them in place or the neck of the shirt, now you have yourself a net that you can possibly slide under, around or something to get the bird, it is week so it should be farely easy to get a hold of with this.

Please let us know as soon as you have it.

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Old 12th April 2007, 05:00 AM
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mhernan,

Can you update us please?
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Old 12th April 2007, 05:59 AM
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Hi Mhernan,

Sorry I am late to this thread. I live in Toronto and can offer you assistance with this bird. Please update us with its status, can you just ask your neighbour to get the bird for you?

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Old 12th April 2007, 04:56 PM
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Hi Ron, thanks for posting. Don't be sorry, you didn't know.


Hope to hear something soon from mhernan.
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Old 12th April 2007, 07:37 PM
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---update---


Hi guys,

Sorry for the delay. My friend and I looked under the divider and over it with a flashlight (since there's no light out there) and the pigeon was no where to be found. I also think that since last night, the babies have been by themselves, as I didnt see the mom or dad around - even just now when I looked. Do you think that by getting so close to the babies (did not touch them) that now the parent has abandoned them?

Should we feed the babies, or will that cause the parents to abandon them?

PS - here in Toronto, I just got a notice that it is illegal to have these pigeons on my balcony and that their excrements can be a health hazard. So I can't really mention it to the building.
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Old 12th April 2007, 07:46 PM
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No, the parents will not abandon the youngsters if people get close or even touch them, only if it is continues. They will come back to the young once any person goes away.

Please do give the youngsters access to some wild bird seed and water, and keep an eye on them.

Have you looked for the injured bird anymore today?

Don't worry about the poop, it is not any worse then any other type of bird poop, the excrements aren't a health hazard unless you do something like eat them.

You can contact Ron if you need some answers to questions or for help. He is a wonderful caretaker and rehabber of pigeons and other birds.
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Old 12th April 2007, 07:48 PM
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Does it have to be bird seed? It's late here and all the stores are closed. I do have poppyseed bagels...is bread ok? And what do we put the water in?
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And both parents are still no where in sight.
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Old 12th April 2007, 07:54 PM
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In regards to their age, which one of the pics do they resemble age wise?

http://www.speedpigeon.com/baby_racing_pigeon.htm

They may have to eat on their own, and if they are closer to 4 weeks of age they may be ready to. If younger we have to consider alternatives.

Perhaps they will, if you put some whole grain bread in small pieces, for now, even thawed and drained corn or peas will do, but it should be warm, soaked, and drained. Do you have any puppy chow or organic dog food or cat food? You can use that temporarily. Just put some out in small pieces, soaked and drained.

You don't have to put water out if the food is soaked and drained, however, when you put wild bird seed out (which is their actual diet) they will need a spill proof bowl of water.

If you have any problems where they won't eat please contact Ron for help.

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Old 12th April 2007, 07:59 PM
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Ok. Maybe Ron can take the birds up to the Toronto Wildlife Center. I messgd him. In any case, I don't know if they can eat on their own. I just got home from work and haven't been watching religiously. I have no whole grain bread or peas or corn. Can and should I give them small pieces of poppy seed bagels?
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mhernan,

jazaroo aka Ron is online right now and I am hoping that he will chime in shortly as he is there in your area and will be able to talk you through this and hopefully can assist, have you looked on the ground down below the balcony to make sure that it did not fall any place, the youngsters will need to be cared for and provided water.

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Old 12th April 2007, 08:16 PM
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I think they are closer to 22 days old.
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Old 12th April 2007, 08:20 PM
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Thank you for the picture, the kids are adorable.

Ron is on now, so he will help you.

Thanks for your input, Ellen.

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Old 13th April 2007, 05:00 AM
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Hi mhernan,

I PMd' you my cell number please call me.

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