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14th March 2006, 04:54 PM
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temperature for some time to come. It's highly unlikely a pij could survive an immediate dunk in the hot-mop mix. The skin would burn.
fp[/quote] Hi phil, good to have you back. Hope your trip was nice. This pij had only an irritated skin, but no burns. Another thought that I had is, if the activated charcoal goes just through the stomach and intestines to absorb any toxins, then it wouldn't be of use in tar babies, would it? If the toxins of the tar are absorbed, they will go into the blood, so won't even come in cotnact with eachother, unless he swallows some from preening, something this little guy isn't doing, I guess he is still too young. Reti 
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#62
14th March 2006, 05:09 PM
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Hi Reti,
The charcoal is only meant to absorb toxins present in the gut and intestines and is only usefull on those toxins that have not yet been digested and absorbed by the body. If the toxins are absorbed throught the skin and taken up in the blood then charcoal is of no value. Also, charcoal works best on liquified material that can be absorbed, taken up and excreted by the poisoned patient. I somewhat doubt that something as thick, sticky and indigestible as tar would be treated effectively by charcoal but perhaps the components and chemicals that the cold-tar is mixed with might be cleared out in this way. Cameron
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#63
14th March 2006, 05:15 PM
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That's what I know too. So, then in this case the charcoal would be of no use, since it is not ingested. Reti
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14th March 2006, 05:49 PM
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Exactly. The intent of charcoal is to "catch" the problem before the liver and other organs have to deal with it. Giving charcoal is somewhat time-sensitive, even urgent in that you have to give it before the body has had time to digest and absorb the toxins.
Cameron Last edited by Camrron; 14th March 2006 at 06:16 PM.
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14th March 2006, 07:31 PM
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If you've never seen the bird preen since you've had it, then it doesn't sound needed. It would seem that herbal systemic flushes would more likely be helpful to you Reti, and it sounds as though you are giving the pij some of the supportive herbal & homeopathic rememdies already. Milk Thistle might be a good thing to think about giving and others that flush systemically or specific to an organ. But the liver is always a good place to start for something like this.
fp
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15th March 2006, 12:45 AM
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Hi Reti,
...yahhhhh... Lots of good chow, warmth available if he wants it...Olive Oil Glistened Seeds...shredded Sea Weed and light Vitamine dusts on the Oil Seeds...the presentation for his discretion now and then of a warm Bath...direct Sunlight outdoors on nice days... ACV-Water for their drinking of course, is nice for almost any occasion... Ought to see him recover nicely... Whats doing with that 'wing' business? Does he walk well now? Love, Phil Las Vegas
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15th March 2006, 04:36 AM
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Thanks fp, I have Milk Thistle, will give it to him today.
Phil, the wound on the wing looks much better, almost healed completely. Since I clipped his primaries he keeps the wing up ok, hope if it is a fracture it will heal nicely. He is walking ok, but not much, prefers to sit in his basket. He does get up for food and water, eats a lot, gained 7gr, poops are great. Reti
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#68
15th March 2006, 06:05 AM
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This is where the Reishi, DHLA, and Milk Thistle, and barley leaf powder, come in to play, they will be most beneficial for detox now. glad you are using it.
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#69
15th March 2006, 06:23 AM
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barley leaf powder? Haven't used that one yet. What does it do? Does Wild Oats have it? Reti
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15th March 2006, 06:41 AM
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They should carry it, it is one for heavy metal also, like lead & mercury...
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