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#16
15th July 2005, 02:21 PM
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Miami,
Reti is going to send you a private message with her phone number so we can get this bird some help. Treesa Last edited by Trees Gray; 15th July 2005 at 02:25 PM. 
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#18
15th July 2005, 02:38 PM
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Thanks for saving the poor little sick juvenile pigeon!
Please make sure you isolate the sick pigeon from your other birds. I'd wash hands and change clothes before handling your pet birds.
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17th July 2005, 12:21 AM
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Hi Miami,
Wow... One thing...as this is an adolescent Bird, it may be interested to be fed in the way Babys are fed, and, you can do this with the hollow of a Baby Nipple. In this instance, if the Bird is interested to do so, it also means you may introduce a very nutritionally enhanced diet to augment whatever Seeds the Bird is otherwise eating on it's own. The best possible nutrition right now will be very important for this Bird... Seeds alone and a dab of Vitamines in their Water might not be anywhere near as good as a great deal more and intentional additional nutrition, fed to them in this way, which the Bird might just enjoy too, as something re-assureing and happy and familiar for them. I have recently begun to do this, and last night, an injured and quite forlorn Bird, came right around to be comfortable and to feel welcome and assured...PLUS it got some really nutritious food into him far exceeding what the Seeds he was not eating, would have given him...and soon he was eating Seeds and feeling so much better...it is a great morale booster for them, and a comfort to their woes...and, is faster than waiting for them to elect to start eating enough otherwise, as well as it can prime the pump for them TO feel interested in eating... If you would like, I will be happy to elaborate on this as for method, and the recipies for the foods. Thank you brave Souls to have recued this one...and Godspeed with it's recovery...! Phil Las Vegas
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#21
17th July 2005, 04:59 AM
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The last thing I heard was that Miami did bring the bird over to Reti's Friday night,and got the bird started on a few things & gave him medication for the bird. The bird did make it thru the night, havent heard anything further. Treesa
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#22
17th July 2005, 05:29 AM
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Thank you, Treesa.
I am sorry about that, Terry. I had a hectic day yesterday, I should have found some time to post. Miami and his wife brought the bird Friday night. We stabilized the poor thing, which looked emaciated, dehydrated and very sick. I have no doubt he has pox, probably also internal. Maybe even something else going on. One eye looks infected. I gave them some vitamins to give daily, probiotics, thuja occidentalis for the pox, doxycycline for infection, colloidal silver on the eye for the infection. Yesterday morning I talked to Miami, the bird was alive and drinking and pecking on seeds. I am waiting for further update today. They are wonderful people who care deeply about animals and this sweet little bird. So, this little one is in very good hands. Lets hope we have good news today. Reti
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#24
17th July 2005, 07:58 AM
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Since there are only so many hours in a day, one can only do so much.  Hello Miami, I'm so sorry to hear your little patient isn't doing well. Let's hope he makes a vast turnaround towards recovery.  Cindy
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A Pigeon's Prayer  Please watch over us while we fly, keeping us safe from the predators that share the sky. If we become ill or injured in any way, Please lead us to safety where we are welcome to stay. Cindy Boyce
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#25
17th July 2005, 12:26 PM
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Hi Reti and all,
Sorry I came across so grumpy .. sadly I was grumpy but not at Reti in any way. I knew she would help in any way that she could. I'm very sorry that the prognosis is so poor for this little bird. Terry
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#27
17th July 2005, 12:34 PM
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Miami called Reti back this morning and said he had "perked up" after hydrating him with sugar & probiotics in the water.
Have not heard anymore.
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#29
17th July 2005, 03:19 PM
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The turn for the worse was the bird was unresponsive this morning. Laying on one side, legs, wings stretched out. Yesterday he was alert and eating and drinking.
I adviced Miami to hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Last phone conversation, around 1.30pm, the bird was doing a bit better, not eating though, so I recommended some baby cereal for now, and hopefully tomorrow we can start him on formula. Oh, Miami gave him some puppy chow, seems though like he is not digesting it, plus there is diarrhea now. We need a lot of prayers for this little one. Thank you for your concern, Terry. Thank you for keeping everybody updated, Treesa. Reti
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#30
17th July 2005, 03:29 PM
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...please consider my mention of the 'Morale Booster'...
It is easy, it can get needed nutrients, medicines, suppliments, electrolytes and liquids into them, and, the gesture itself, for them, is very meaningful and re-assureing...it can be a 'deal maker', where it's absense can be a 'deal breaker'. I would be happy to share my 'soup' recipies and method, if a review of them is needed for this. If the Bird makes the decision that it's keeper is 'as' a careing parent, or oif the caretaker will do the feeding gesture of a parent, then there is a shift of being connected in a 'safe' and happy way, (kinds like those secret 'Masonic' handshakes that let two strangers say, "One of us!" Lol...) and the connection can go a long way as for their decideing to live...their sense of the scenario, then, reconstellates... It is one way to get them to know the deal is safe, loveing, and real in their terms... It is best if one may do this in the beginnning of course, but even if a little late, it is still worth a try... Otherwise, all they know, is that they feel poorly, are trapped by stangers of another species who are not connecting to them with gestures they understand or feel assured by, are confused with all the man handleing and invasive attentions, they feel vulnerable as for their lost automony, and, combined with the visceral and other compromise, feelings of threat and stress of their condition physically, they can decide it is not worth putting up with and fade. No matter how technically adept those attentions they may recieve may be otherwise...they mean nothing in terms the Bird will find emotionally meaningful or assureing in it's language...or the ministerings and proceedures are positively contextually stressing themselves and do not occur in a primary context of them feeling safe and recognised. If they feel assured in their language, you can handle them and do things and they are not stressed hardly at all...just mildly discomforted but with no emotional stress or feeling of being threatened by it. It is not a guarentee of course, but it is a damned good bet, that if you do do this, and do it right, it can improve the matter, and fast, too. And even if it does not, it will have been worth a try... Seems to me... This one needs anything it can get...to go on... Love, Phil Las Vegas Last edited by pdpbison; 17th July 2005 at 03:44 PM.
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