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Old 21st October 2006, 05:49 PM
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Hi Birdbabe

Sorry you haven't been feeling well and hope you get better soon.

I can't speak about the belladona because I've never used it but Treesa is very good with natural remedies and knows what she is talking about.

About the feeding. I would like to make it simpler for you to help take the stress off both you and the bird. We feed our young and/or sick pigeons Exact but we use a syringe with a cat nipple attached but you can use whatever method you've been using. I simply mix the Exact with hot water from the faucet and then stir in about a teaspoon of plain yogurt which will help his digestion. Make sure you mix it really well because the Exact will swell some. By the time you've stirred it well it should be at the right temperature but always put a dab on your wrist to make sure it isn't too hot. You can alternate the plain yogurt with a probiotic called Benebac that I believe is available from Petsmart. As far as I know, you can continue to add the calcium and garlic but I don't think he needs the extra vitamins (Nekton) right now because the Exact has vitamins in it.

Continue with trying to help him eat seed and if the Zupreem is something he can manage continue with that - only not too much - and not the sole source of his food. Our pigeons love Zupreem as a treat.
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Old 23rd October 2006, 01:59 PM
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Hi Phil, this little guy is no more than 5 months old. Ive had him about 4 months.His poopies are a drab olivey green with white and clear liquid. I dont know how to post pics here but I can video and upload from my phone and send that to your Private E-mail if you like. Im here in Arizona and its still quite warm. When I pick up Pidgarooni, he feels warm as do his feet, like I said he has a heating pad in his cage set on low if he chooses to lay on that...its on half of the cage bottom.Thanks for your help as everyone else.
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Old 23rd October 2006, 06:48 PM
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Hi Birdbabe,



Hmmmm...

Might be a good idea to Worm them...

At least that gets rid one one variable of whatever might be vexing or taxing them.


How goes their self-feeding? Are they pecking any better yet?

I know sometimes I get in adults who poke at the Seeds and actually 'peck'' nothing as for getting anyitng into themselves, and this takes whatever time it takes to clear up...during which time of course I have to feed them one way or another.

If your Pigeon has the PPMV, then this can throw them off of course in any of many ways.

Direct Outdoor Sunshine, and often, if you can...would certainly be good for them...

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Old 31st October 2006, 07:52 AM
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Hi all, well he still hanging in there. I elected not to get the bellodonna as I talked with my avian vet and he says to be careful with those homepathic medicines. he was going to do some research on it and get back with me. I totally trust this man, he is one of the best. He has saved the lives of a couple of my birds in the past. Were keeping up on the teaching to self feed,but he still gets his fomula with extra calcium and the grapefruit seed extract in the water along with the apple cider viingar in the water also. I alternate these on different days. he looks good except for the crappy tail that he props himself on when hes resting. Still shaking,and cuddly. I keep you updated evey week or so. Thank you all for everything.
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Old 31st October 2006, 08:06 AM
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Can you describe this propping-himself-on-his-tail thing? Is it like sitting up with his rump firmly on the ground?

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Old 31st October 2006, 10:00 AM
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After reading this post about other challenges in saving a pigeon I realize that the only delima I had was to get him to feed from a syring and then to wean him off the syringe to seed. Im still finding it challenging to get him to entertain any other food ideas....

picky bird.

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Old 7th November 2006, 02:19 PM
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Hi again, were still trying to eat on our own here with no luck, I notice he can pick them up but then drops them again when he tries to get them back to swallow.I am a patient mom though....laying on the floor with him playing with seeds in my hand and he walks(stumbles) over and tries to eat. He shakes constanlty! His new thing is prooping himself on his tail and sitting back on his "heels" butt almost touching the ground. he gets very melonchaly and sits in front of the arcadia door looking outside for hours. We went outside once so far but he got so nervous his shaking was almost uncontrolable. Poor guy. he likes the back of his neck and cheeks rubbed, this seems to lessen his shaking.When I leave for work, I put him on the bed and punch a spot in the pillow for him to nestle into, hell still be there in the morning looking all comfy.He still can drink water on his own which is a big help to me, but we need to get this eating thing down, then I wouldnt worry so much about him. Thanks for all your help everyone.
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