Hard to Watch but Good to Talk About

[superflyer]

I volunteer with Mercy for Animals a group that does outstanding work
helping factory farmed birds. Video has been posted of undercover hatchery investigations. If you can take it please watch and pass along.

http://www.mercyforanimals.org/hatchery/

http://www.mercyforanimals.org

[Becca199212]

That is very sad, very disturbing. I do agree with much of what their saying, are they PETA affiliated? I think most people can watch a video like that then go away and eat a chicken or an egg and not consider where it came from.
Someone posted PETAs meet your meat video on here some time ago- when discussing using pigeons as meat- that was when it dawned on me that the chicken on my plate was the chicken at the farm and I haven't been able to eat anything animal based since then. I think alot of people have the ability to completely detach themselves, the rest of my family saw the same video as I did only it didn't effect them in the same way, I suppose it depends on the person and their individual morals.

[Fbirdie82]

My 4-H leader works at the Federal level inspecting poultry facilities and making sure that they meet all the standards for being "humane." She always tells me that people have no idea about their food.

[Fbirdie82]

Just finished watching the videos, and would like to mention that going vegan is not the answer. You are human and as such you are omnivore, meaning you are meant to eat meat. People do eat more meat, and the wrong kinds of meat, than we were intended to. Reducing the amount of meat that you eat, eating the proper portions, and educating others is what I suggest. Some of you may remember that I am a huge advocate for educating about the cruelty in the dairy industry, and that I actually was responsible for getting the Health curriculum at my high school changed after educating the school district in a manner that was just the facts. Most people do not know this but the vegan diet can be very harmful, because you miss more than just protein when you go off meat. So please do your research before going vegan. You are no help fighting this cause if you end up sick or dead from jumping into veganism without doing your homework first. We need to educate people to make a difference. And every single piece of meat that you put in your mouth should make you think about the animal whose life was sacrificed so that you could live.

[Crazy Pete]

That was to much I couldn't watch.
Dave

[Fbirdie82]

Originally Posted by Crazy Pete

I couldn't watch

The saddest part is that more people need to.

[Fbirdie82]

Superflyer...

PETA caused a lot of controversy over the years and subsequently has desensitizied people to videos like this. Many do not believe that things like this happen.

I wanted to add that I know someone who is a Federal Inspector of poultry facilities. They verified that this barbaric, inhumane practise goes on EVERY SINGLE DAY in the United States at hatcheries. So non-believers, believe.

They call it "throwing them in the trash."

The ignorant hypocrites who condemn hunters, but eat eggs and drink milk, always crack me up!

[Mindy]

I don't condemn hunters, but I want them to eat what they kill. I came across about 50 candian geese last year and the only thing they took off of them is the breast meat and then they tossed them on the edge of this water canal. Couldn't even dispose of them properly. I also know hunters that just kill the geese just to get a band off them so they can make a necklace. NOW THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS!! I made a big stink and he did lose his hunting license for several years, but he has them back this year. I just feel sorry for all the animals. But I would have to say I'm one of those hyprocrites, unfortunately, I blame my parents, I have tried several times to quit eating meat. If I had to kill for my own food then I know I could not kill them and then I would be a vegetarian. But its already dead in the stores. I'm sorry to say.

Fbirdie82: I love the work that you do. you go girl!! min

[Claudia]

I did not watch it as I have seen enough of them to invision it. I used to be a hunter. I always ate all of what I shot. I was hungry and I fed my family this way. I no longer hunt but don't mind people who do as long as they eat what they shot.

I do like meat eggs and milk. I am always looking for products that came from humainly treated animals. I buy what I call "happy chicken eggs", happy animal meat. It always costs more, but I am no longer hungry and can afford to buy it. It is hard to find and I'm never sure if I am being taken, but I do it anyway. I justify it by thinking that the animal would not have been born if it were not going to be eaten. It was bred and born as food. Maybe a short happy life and being humainly treated is better than never being born at all. I am always surprised how many people think that I am spending too much and thinking about the treatment too much. That I have too much empathy. Maybe I do but it makes me feel better.

Claudia

[Fbirdie82]

Mindy... I disagree strongly with vegetarianism, however I do not judge people who chose that lifestyle. As I have a said a million times, humans are predators and omnivores. Being an omnivore is not a choice, it is in your genetics. Being a vegan is a choice. It is not a natural one, and can be very, very unhealthy if not done properly. Our eyes are on the front of our heads, not the sides. By the same token, I believe in treating animals humanely. Our agriculture industry has been headed in the wrong direction for a very long time. Even the "free range" facilities are not as humane as is being preached. Don't even get me started on Kosher...

Claudia... I have nothing against hunters who are responsible. One well aimed shot is a much nicer way to go then being slaughtered. The sheer amount of animals that must be slaughtered to meet the demands of our wasteful and glutenous nation will always result in abuse, negligance, and cruelty. The meat that you buy from any large grocery store is probably from one of those commercial farms. "Organic" and "free range" is often no better. The best way to ensure that your food has been humanely and respectfully taken is to go out and shoot it yourself. BUT, we are not supposed to talk about hunting on this forum, so I will say no more about it.

I did not intend to steal this thread. Sorry!

[Columba livia!]

Sad video. I watched the first one. I respect both vegitarians and meat eaters out there. I myself am somewhere in the middle. I eat meat, but because I am a bit a bird lover I refuse poltry. Any way, there has to be a more humane way to raise poltry than they are doing in the first video. I never knew they killed the males. Thank you for illuminating that for me. just another reason for me to keep not eating chicken.

[Mindy]

I have NINE ROOSTERS. With only 11 hens. I would never kill my roosters, but my life is not easy with them. I let 6 of them run free and they all go to there own little dog house that is in a pen for there safety at night. To get to all of them to go in there own dog houses was not easy, it was a lot of work. Well it wasn't that hard, about a week of going out there right at dusk to show them where I wanted them. It was such a joy to see everyone in there homes. Out of 9 chicks last year 7 of them were roosters. Why couldn't 7 be hens!!! I have one rooster that I bring inside when it gets cold because he is really old like 9 years old. Poor guy, he has a mate that doesn't have any feathers, born that way, so she comes inside also. It is sad that the males get "trashed". As long as you don't give them hens they will get along with one another once someone is the "Chief". min

[Columba livia!]

yeah, we can't keep roosters anymore in dallas, but we still have 3 hens. ofcourse, they are just pets.

[Mindy]

Columbia, if you keep you rooster locked up in the dark until a reasonable hour of the morning, you could probably keep one. Just a thought. That is what a friend of mine does that lives in town. He catches him everynight, takes him in the garage in a dog crate and covers it up and then lets him come out at around 9:00 am. And when he takes a vacation, the rooster comes to my house and I rooster sit. min

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