Here we go again!

[cyro51]

Another ASBO (Anti Social Behaviour Order) threat.

I like the woman's denial, though. It is always best to deny everything. Hopefully even with ASBOs the onus of proof will be on the accusers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/6252979.stm

Cynthia

[Pidgey]

Dang! I guess this means that I'm anti-social, too...

But, for being anti-social, I sure am in...

GOOD COMPANY!!!

Pidgey

[Larry_Cologne]

Hello Cynthia,

Someone here in a nearby local housing complex also complained that he disliked pigeons because they covered laundry in droppings, and that also his car got covered in droppings. He or his wife would open a folding laundry drying rack for drying clothes, and conceivably a portion of it might be under the rain gutter which ran for twenty or so meters along the roof-line.

How often his clothes could get hit by an occasional dropping is a matter of conjecture. Perhaps one or two droppings would be enough for them to scream "INVASION BY PIGEONS!"

Hs car was parked in an open lot with small trees, none of which were occupied by pigeons.

I have spent several hundred hours under some thick streetcar power lines and sme thick tree branches at a local intersection (when I watched for Splitbeak last year, 2005) with definitely pigeons lined up overhead, and was hit by a dropping perhaps tree times, definitely not four times.

The pigeons poop while perched, or upon take-off. I have never observed one to do so at any distance from take-off point, nor have I seen evidence of such on the ground.

I think we have a demonstration here of echoes, of me-too-ers.

I think the burden of proof, the gathering of evidence, should be placed on the complainers.

Pigeons keeping people awake? Come on. People are much worse, and become very indignant when their behaviour is pointed out to them. Let's examine motorcycles with defective mufflers, screeching tires. Someone could just as easily claim (and prove) that they find the cooing natural and soothing.

National Geographic magazine recently had an articlle on parks ad green areas and wildlife in the city, and quoted studies demonstrating lower crime rates, lower Attention Deficit Disorder rates, less delinquency and crime.

Society should consider carefully before getting rid of a good thing.

A point we can make: people who lke pigeons tend to spend more time around pigeons and be in closer proximity to them than anyone else. They are the experts. What do they say, even taking prejudices into regard? Do we find it necessary to wear ear protection? (I have used earplugs against many other noises). Are pigeons active and vociferous at night? Early morning, yes, as is according to nature. The sun also rises early, and can be claimed to keep people awake.

Which gives me an idea: placards claiming "Let's ban the sun, give it an ASBO, it keeps me awake at the early morning hours because it does not match my diurnal rhythms.

Gotta go now. 1:15 A.M. Been sleeping a LOT the last week. Cynthia, you asked me a question a week ago, about whether I was sure that my lung problem was caused by an infection. Still don't have a definite answer. A lot of maybe's and possibly's. I was tired and confused and wanted to formulate a coherent answer, and the time passed, and I did not want to bump up a thread without having something substantive to add to te rignal topic of the thread. Yes, I did walk maybe a half kilometer or quarter mile to the hospital from the streetcar stop to the hospital with 70 percent or less oxygen saturation. The put me on oxygen right away, and I have liquid oxygen (which expands to an inhalable gas as it warms) now at home. I realized that I have had low oxygen levels a number of times over the past half year or longer. Just didn't have any digital measurement figures to back up "I'm feeling lousy." I take it one step at a time. It helps to think of myself as a sissy or complainer, comparing my meager woes to those of wounded soldiers or injured pigeons who have to endure much more occasionally to survive. Of course stoicism r an attitude trying to pass itself off as stoic has its drawbacks at times.

I think I have had an infection, which ebbs and flows and comes and goes. Wife says breath stinks, gets better, gets worse. am doing better.

Larry

[pigeonperson]

Iran is building a nuclear weapon. American and British soldiers are dying in Iraq. Global warming is threatening to wipe out thousands of species. A woman in the UK received an ASBO for feeding pigeons. People sometimes get their priorities all out of order.

[Trees Gray]

So this has become a diagnosed behavior or an order?

Well we are all suffering from it, and happily so.

What petty stuff...they all need to go get a life, as they are suffering from a REAL dissorder.

[feralpigeon]

Yes, confusion around life's priorities and a failure to grasp what constitutes
a REAL disorder.

fp

[maryjane]

Larry, I'm sorry to hear that you're having a hard time still. I hope you are able to pinpoint what is wrong soon, and get to feeling better again.

[Larry_Cologne]

Hello Maryjane,

Thanks for asking.

My wife is looking over my shoulder, and she would say that my problem is that I am a pinhead. So, how do you pinpoint a pinhead?

Actually, she says she desn't know the word "pinhead," and wouldn't use it. But she has called me a stripe after I get a haircut, since I have a narrow face (skull shape common to medieval Europe before rounder skull genes started to dominate according to a physical anthroplogist who measured my skull with calipers during open house at a University of Texas at Austin college).

I seem to be feeling better for now. With CF, things can fluctuate. So, back to causing more trouble, grief and consternation at home!