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Posted 24th April 2012, 09:44 AM
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Help! Friendly ferals nested, egg hatched but we are moving.


Hello! My boyfriend and I live in an apartment complex. A male and female built a nest on the seat of a chair on our balcony. Sensing she was going to lay eggs soon, we made it our mission to gain their trust so we could still use our balcony. We feed them and they are very trusting of us. Two eggs were laid, only one hatched. We have to move at the end of June and do not want the property managers to destroy the nest and/or the birds but undoubtedly they will in order to get a new tenant. Is there any way we can safely move the nest? If so, where do we move it to? Should we just move it to another location on the current property or since they are used to us feeding them, do we move it with us to our new home? We really care about these birds and do not want to see them harmed.

Two secondary questions: 1) What happens to the second egg if it doesn't hatch? it's been a week since the first one did so I'm assuming it's not going to. 2) The nest is only two feet from the ground. It rests on the seat of a chair on a balcony with a three foot fence around the perimeter. With the baby that far into an semi-enclosed space, how will it learn to fly and eventually leave the nest? We tried to prevent them from building their nest there but they kept doing it when we were away at work.

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Posted 24th April 2012, 10:00 AM
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Can you deley moving for about a month, as in that time the baby will be fledged.
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No, we cannot.
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No, we cannot.
well then seems you have two choices.. take him with you and hand feed him or leave him there and try to tell the apartment manager about it to see if they have a soft spot and hope for the best.

the second egg is no good so it should be tossed before it goes bad. the baby will or can learn to fly on it's own from a balcony.
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How old is the baby now?
If you are moving the end of June, the baby will have fledged by then. Just don't allow them to build another nest because that's usually what they do when the babies are 10 days old.
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Charis is right. That gives him 2 months. He'll be fledged. As mentioned, don't allow them to hatch any more eggs. But at the same time, you don't want to scare them off by taking their eggs or breaking new nests. The best thing you could do is to buy a couple of fake eggs, and when they lay again, just replace the real ones with the fake. You can buy these at pigeon supplies, or if you can find something that looks enough like their eggs at a craft store, you could use them. This way, nobody gets upset, and they still stay around to care for their baby. Easiest way out.
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she said it has been a week since it hatched. so yes it will be gone by move day..missed the date she stated...so no delima here.
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Follow up questions:
1) So the baby can fly if the distance between the nest and ground is two feet or less? It would have to be able to fly to reach the ledge of the balcony, as it is highger than the nest and get out into the real world.
2) I'm concerned about the idea of touching the unhatched egg. Wouldn't that spook the baby and the adults? How would that be done safely? Does everyone agree on this?
3) So when they look to lay new eggs, they will look to build a new nest, not continue to use the old one? So all we need to do is remove the old one when the baby has left and try to remove any initial twigs and such if they start to build a new one?

Thanks so much for the wonderful information! Such a shame we can't take them with us. We've grown quite fond of them.
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Follow up questions:
1) So the baby can fly if the distance between the nest and ground is two feet or less? It would have to be able to fly to reach the ledge of the balcony, as it is highger than the nest and get out into the real world.

It will be able to do that.

2) I'm concerned about the idea of touching the unhatched egg. Wouldn't that spook the baby and the adults? How would that be done safely? Does everyone agree on this?
If the baby is young, it wouldn't hurt to leave the egg for a bit longer and the baby will use it to lean against.

3) So when they look to lay new eggs, they will look to build a new nest, not continue to use the old one? So all we need to do is remove the old one when the baby has left and try to remove any initial twigs and such if they start to build a new one?

Usually, they build a new one near by. It may be on your balcony or another one.
If they start to build on your balcony take the twigs and the eggs if they lay. Take the eggs right away so they don't start to develop.

Thanks so much for the wonderful information! Such a shame we can't take them with us. We've grown quite fond of them.
Yes it is a shame you can't take them with you.
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@Charis: When you say take the twigs and eggs, what do we do with them?
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I wouldn't remove a new nest, just replace the eggs with fake ones. Some people boil the eggs and then return them to the nest. Taking the eggs away and destroying the nest would force them to lay another round of eggs too soon, which is not good for the hen.

The only problem is not to scare them away when doing that. They will fly away when you get close to the nest, but if you switch the eggs quickly and then go inside, they'll come back. Taking both eggs to boil them, at the same time, might also make them abandon the nest.

This way they will happily sit on the fake/boiled eggs for almost a month before deciding to lay new ones. So it's possible you'll have to replace eggs twice before the end of June.

What's important is that when you move and they'll probably have to move too, they should be sitting on fake eggs, not young babies...

The best scenario under the circumstances would be if they decided to make the new nest in another place nearby, but not on your balcony.
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Walter...the point is to get them to leave the balcony so they won't be harmed by the management or new tenants.
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@Charis: When you say take the twigs and eggs, what do we do with them?
Just throw them away.It is better to throw away the nest so they won't lay eggs.Frighten them away if you need to. The long range purpose is to protect them...yes?
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You said you were skeptical about taking the old egg away, don't worry as they won't care. Well they do but it won't spook them.
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Just throw them away.It is better to throw away the nest so they won't lay eggs.Frighten them away if you need to. The long range purpose is to protect them...yes?

I wouldn't want to do anything that would frighten them away until the baby they have is fledged. If they are frightened away, they may not want to come back to feed the baby. I'd wait til the baby is out and flying. Then scare them away if you want to. You will have time for that. Yes, you want them to leave, but not til the baby is ready to go.
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