new kid on the block

[feralpigeon]

Originally Posted by Reti

Thank you for the update. Sounds like he will be alright in no time.
I had asked my vet about the Baytril and it's administration in youngsters, he never heard of the side effect in birds and in the clinic we've given it routinely. Also at least half of my birds had it with no ill effects. So, if the side effects occurs it might be pretty rare.
Anyways, for superficial wounds Clavamox is preferable.

How is he doing now?

Reti

I asked Speers about Baytril and babies and he cited the study in Beagles and said there was no corresponding data that showed negative effects in birds. Another client asked Ford ( his partner who raised pigeons as a kid) about the same topic and he said that there was no evidence that birds or pigeons specifically (the babies that is) suffered bone issues as a result of dosing w/Baytril.

I'm not closing the door on this one, but there may be something that is
species specific going on here.

fp

[feralpigeon]

Aias and Sabina,

Thanks so much for bringing the bird into AG to get this taken care of
professionally. It's just so cool that you do have AG as a resource, but
I also know that it takes time from your busy lives scheduling pigeon
duty! Thank you both so much for taking care of NYC's finest==the inner
city ferals!

fp

[xxmoxiexx]

oh!! he is sooo cute!! did they say anything about the baldness at AG??
is it boy/girl?
i LOVE the pics of her sleeping!! too cute!!
how does Oscar like the new addition!?!

[TAWhatley]

Originally Posted by feralpigeon

I asked Speers about Baytril and babies and he cited the study in Beagles and said there was no corresponding data that showed negative effects in birds. Another client asked Ford ( his partner who raised pigeons as a kid) about the same topic and he said that there was no evidence that birds or pigeons specifically (the babies that is) suffered bone issues as a result of dosing w/Baytril.

I'm not closing the door on this one, but there may be something that is
species specific going on here.

fp

I have often given babies Baytril when paratyphoid was known or suspected. Their growth was already inhibited by the paratyphoid, but the Baytril did not seem to cause any adverse reactions .. rather the opposite .. they survived. There are some old and long threads here about Alea and Ali and I forget the name of the other baby she had. We fought a long and hard battle with paratyphoid using Baytril as our weapon, and we won. I would love to hear from Alea again and know how it all ended up with her two baby pigeons. She was in the Navy and probably got deployed ..

Terry

[sabina]

They didn't say anything about the baldness, I think the visit was very focused on the surgery.
We won't know if Simi is a boy or girl until all grown up. And even then, sometimes people get surprised.
Oscar has paid NO attention to the new addition, none whatsover.
The baby seems fine, is preening, eating, helicoptering--never seemed in any pain at all. Oh and lots of new feathers sprouting on her back and head but not so much on the neck...still a mystery...

[Reti]

I think the feathers will grow eventually. I had one "drop off" baby pigeon in the clinic (a couple had raised him and didn't know at this point what to do with him, they didn't want to keep him), anyways, she was completely bald and it took about two months for her feathers to grow, she looks perfectly normal now.

Reti

[sabina]

Simone has perfect feathering now, her back looks completely normal.

She is very cute and sweet. She is pretty much only happy if she's standing on one of our heads. Flies straight for the head every time. Or shoulder. Or lap.

I guess she started flying about a week ago, and she flies pretty well. She is able to venture farther every day.

I took out her sutures about 9 days after they were put in, you could never tell there was an injury there. It healed perfectly.

We'll try to post some update pics soon.

[sabina]

Here are some pics from today:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ms_sabina/tags/simone/

which you can compare to pics from before:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100fire...7600215725353/

[Lady Tarheel]

A few days made all the difference plus excellent care. Simone is looking beautiful.

[Lovebirds]

Simone is so sweet looking. I love the name too. All of you guys come up with such terrific name. I have no imagination at all.!!

[Trees Gray]

She looks great! What a difference some tender loving supportive care makes!