Release in Doubt.

[mr squeaks]

notice the difference at times in poops when Squeaks is molting. Of course, I panic but then when he's out and about, all is fine. Also, birds like their routine and when something is different they seem to manifest through their poops.

Sometimes, in the morning, before I let him out, I will notice nicely formed poops from during the night. The minute he's out or if I'm not fast enough for him, he will always make one giant poop - sometimes nicely formed, etc. and sometimes not so good. Then, running around he becomes a little pooping machine with nicely formed "raisins." Go figure...

Some time ago, there was a thread started about poops. Quite informative and, after awhile, quite humorous too! We tended, at times, to get a little carried away (pun intended)!

[Trees Gray]

Originally Posted by mr squeaks

Some time ago, there was a thread started about poops. Quite informative and, after awhile, quite humorous too! We tended, at times, to get a little carried away (pun intended)!

Here is that excellent thread:

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=11637

[Camrron]

Thanks everyone.

Sometimes I do worry I might be doing the wrong things for my little friend but I always feel better after reading your thoughtful advice and encouragement. I should not be surprised if stress is the culprit. Buddy can act so tough at times but I have noticed he really is very sensitive to changes in my home. So much for the tough guy routine. He's still just a baby.

Buddy seems back to normal today and we spent the day together just fine. His poops are absolutely normal again, (like raisins Mr Squeaks, your description is perfect!) and he is as active as ever. Brad, you asked about his age. I would say he is almost exactly 3 months old now. His molt is fully in progress and Buddy is pulling out some of his first feathers. I would say I have picked up about 15 or 20 so far. Mostly downy but about a half dozen flight feathers. Hopefully the feather pulling/shedding is normal.

He also had his first real bath on his own. Finally! He really seemed to enjoy it too. I put a couple inches of warm water in the sink and splashed it around with my hand which interested him. Then I left to micro some dinner and lo and behold while I was gone he had jumped right in like a trooper for a good soaking. Course he then waddled back to the living room and with real difficulty flew back up to his perch. Hopefully we can have regular bath nights now.

I don't yet have any avian vitamin supplements. Any recomendations? So far I only use ACV, probiotics, grit and good seed. My vet didn't carry any good bird supplies and the chain stores are hopeless.

Thanks for being understanding Treesa. You're a sweetie for sure.

Cameron

[Camrron]

Hi, I just read the "scoop on poop" as Pidgey called it, That is a really helpfull thread and it put a lot of my worries to rest. Thanks Brad (and Treesa for pointing the way).

Cameron

[mr squeaks]

Originally Posted by Trees Gray

Here is that excellent thread:

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=11637

Thanks, Treesa, that was the INFORMATIVE thread. The one I had in mind was, while informative too, was also, REALLY funny! It was called "Poop As Art" and started by Photokev (anyone know what happened to him? He was such a funny guy!)

Anyway, it was posted under General Discussions, page 13 in May, 2005. I found it by doing a search but have no idea how to bring it "back" (bump?).

[Pigeonpal2002]

Originally Posted by mr squeaks

It was called "Poop As Art" and started by Photokev (anyone know what happened to him? He was such a funny guy!)

Hi Shi, Photokev just stopped posting one day for no reason that we are aware of. It was his original idea to have a photo contest here in the forum as well and he was setting it up but then he just vanished

Originally Posted by mr squeaks

Anyway, it was posted under General Discussions, page 13 in May, 2005. I found it by doing a search but have no idea how to bring it "back" (bump?).

Yep, just type "bumping up" if you want to bring it back up near the top of the posts again

[Pigeonpal2002]

Originally Posted by Camrron

I don't yet have any avian vitamin supplements. Any recomendations? So far I only use ACV, probiotics, grit and good seed. My vet didn't carry any good bird supplies and the chain stores are hopeless.

Cameron

Hi Cameron,

That is great that Buddy has taking to bathing and now that he has, he'll want to be splashing around a few times a week

See if you can find PRIME vitamins, I think they are made by Hagens and have been recommended by members here before. I think they are available in some of the pet stores, so look around.

If that doesn't pan out, try searching feed and farm supply stores in your area in the yellow pages or online. Call around and see if any of them carry any products for pigeons, they usually do because pigeons are considered a "farm" animal and many people in rural areas have pigeons.

Good luck

[Trees Gray]

[quote=mr squeaks
Anyway, it was posted under General Discussions, page 13 in May, 2005. I found it by doing a search but have no idea how to bring it "back" (bump?).[/QUOTE]

Here is that thread:

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=10455


The thread has not dissappeared, you can either locate it from clicking on the member who wrote the thread, and click on option, find threads started by this member...or you can go to the bottom of the general discussions forum and find display options, you can click on threads going back a year, instead of 75 days, or more, and then the thread will display.

[mr squeaks]

you might want to check out the Poop as Art. At least you will get a few laughs!

Well, darn, yes I remember now that Photokev kinda fell off the radar.Too bad.

[Camrron]

Ok, got it. Prime by Hagens is what I will look for.Thanks Brad

Oh, Mr Squeaks, I did check out the "poop as art" and have to agree it was one of the craziest threads I've seen so far. There are some really humorous people at pigeons.com. The poop subject is interesting though. You know, with all the effort so many go through trying to input the right things into their pigeons only to get rewarded at times with some very weird output (poop). I myself felt like I was reading teacup leaves trying to discern the meaning of some of the ones I've seen. Thanks for the laughs!

Cameron

[mr squeaks]

I am still thinking about the possibility of getting an "original" Mr. Squeaks 'painting.'

Just need canvas, some non-toxic water-based paint for feet prints, a few feathers, some poops, cover, frame and hang...voila, an orginal pigeon work of art -no two the same! With the talent we have on this site, I bet there would be some beauties!!

[Camrron]

I can hardly wait. Let's call it a pigeon picasso.

Cameron

[mr squeaks]

Or "Original Pigeon (Pictures?) (Prints?)" - Picasso optional

Oh dear, I think it's full moon...crazytime!

Of course, if Pidgey the Poo ever adds his comments, everything will really start going downhill! and your 'original' thread/posts will be history!

The urge to get carried away becomes totally irresistible!

[Pikachu23739]

Originally Posted by Cameron

Hi all,

Buddy (previously "Listless Bird") has made a great recovery thanks to all the advice I received from so many of you. Many Thanks. My worry though is that Buddy has turned into a pet and I did not want or expect that because I had hoped to release him come spring.

Buddy follows me around the apartment, sits at my feet or on the computer when i'm online and generally seems to be happy to see me when I come home. I have just read two excellent threads on release, one from Trees Gray and the other from TAWhatley that are causing me to rethink release.

My concerns are that I can't provide Buddy an opportunity to learn to forage for food naturally and for that matter am not exactly sure what pigeons eat in the wild. It is -25 in Saskatoon tonight with wind chill so taking him outdoors is completely out of the question. My other worries are that he has become too trusting of people, too young (about 7-8 weeks) to have been predator proofed by his parents and is not currently being socialized with other birds. Buddy is my only pigeon. Last, I cannot keep him beyond the end of March because I will be travelling.

I am sorry to bother you all but I need help. Are there any rehabbers in my area who can prepare him for a release down the road or someone who can provide a good loving home come March. I want him to be socialized with other pigeons so he can be as normal as possible. I can already see what is happening here though. This bird sees me as a bird. I am his only company. He has started to communicate with me in his own way, pecks at my boots sits on my chair whenever I move from it and watches me like a hawk. He seems very bright and has turned into quite a strong flier. I am still trying to get a picture of him organized but I am a little low tech. Buddy is all black though on his back and sides except for one white feather. His chest is grey.

Thanks again

Cameron

That's good he made a recovery

[kgmartens]

Hello, Cameron.

I'm from Saskatoon as well. Joined this forum today because I found an injured adult pigeon in my back yard this morning. I was poking around some of these threads and encountered yours.

In the fall, I volunteered at the local Pet Expo for New Hope Dog Rescue. The booth next to ours was the Saskatoon Pet Bird Society. I was wondering if you have contacted anyone in this organization about rehoming Buddy? It says on their website that they will help in rehoming domesticated birds.

http://members.shaw.ca/SPBS/

Best of luck!
Karen