Sweetie and I need Moral Support and Prayer

[Sweetie]

When I was feeding those babies again there was one pigeon that was looking down at me. I saw the sunlight hit his feathers. I said oh, you have beautiful colors baby. The male looked at me again and started to strut and coo at me on top of the lamp post. He was looking at me all the time he was doing it. They are beginning to look at me more often.

They are sure beautiful when they fly. Since I have been feeding them, they seem more energenic. They have more energy. I am so glad, the flock is kind of small. I think some of them have been poisoned by exterminators. I want to try to keep them well fed so that they will be full enough not to eat the food that the exterminators put out.

This is my hope,

Victoria Lutes
Sweetie said Goodbye

[Pete Jasinski]

Hello Victoria,
You should try and move the flock to a more pigeon friendly environment if they're poisoning them in that area, I would hate for you lose your new found friends. From what you're saying your staring to become recognized and hopefully they'll start coming down to greet you soon!
I'm sorry you couldn't get enlarged the pic sent. Maybe you'll have more luck another time.
Keep up the good work!
Pete

[Sweetie]

I did try to send the picture I enlarged to your email. Did you get it yet? After trying to upload it here. I tried to send it to you to your email. Did you get it? I hope so. I hope it was clear enough. I hope you liked it

[Pete Jasinski]

It hasn't made it to me yet but I'll keep checking throughout the day. I'll be sure to let you know when it arrives.
Thank you for doing this for me,
Pete

[Sweetie]

Hi,

This has been a comfort to me when I feed these pigeons at the lamp post in the parking lot of the grocery store. One of the pigeons began to fly behind me I heard some flapping and I slowly turned around, then I said "Oh, hello baby" and the pigeon turned around and was flying back to the lamp post. A few others began to get a little closer also.

I hope I will be able to feed them tomorrow.

Victoria Lutes
Sweetie said Goodbye

[Pete Jasinski]

Good to hear from you Victoria!
Your dream is on it's way to coming true! Soon you'll be surrounded by your new feathered friends cooing in delight Did you mail the pictures of sweetie you want scanned yet? I'm ready, willing and able!

[Sweetie]

My husband and I have to leave the church by the 23 of February. I will send you an address that you can send the pictures back very soon. Please hold on to them for me. Maybe you can place a folder or photo albumn for me on this site. I don't know how to do this, but Sweetie was a special little girl. She helped me get through the rough times. I do believe that the Lord sent Sweetie to me. She really made me feel important. I sure miss her a lot. She would let me hold her for hours at a time. Never forget the look of love in the pigeons eyes as you feed them. They love you.

Pray for me and my husband. That things will start going into place. We are hoping to be on our way to Grand Rapids by Saturday or Sunday. If you know anything about Michigan weather. It is suppose to be a baulmy 40 degrees today. Pray for us.

Your friend,

Victoria Lutes
Sweetie said Goodbye

[feralpigeon]

[quote=AZWhitefeather]Hi Victoria,
People need to realize, some of us have a 'feral' pigeon who is physically challenged, however, it doesn't necessarily mean they need medical attention. It means they have been rescued, treated & are non-releasable.

Yes, this is my gripe with Wildcare in San Rafael, CA. They told me they only euthanized "sick" animals. They didn't say disabled animals, and they did have disabled birds in their resident area. They apparently don't value pigeons nor do they
consider offers of adoption for disability issues.
Such sad posts, but Sweetie felt your love which is so important for a group of birds who experience legalized hatred from humans.
fp

[Pete Jasinski]

Hello Victoria,
I will be sure to keep Sweeties pictures safe and sound until you let me know where to send them. I'll find a way to post them for you in an online gallery. I'll be sure to pray for you and hope for the best with your move. Sweetie will be watching over you as your guardian pidgie angel. Everyting will work out in the end! Good people always get their just rewards
Take care and God Bless

[Pete Jasinski]

Here's a link to the new thread with Sweeties pictures. She will be greatly missed by all!
http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?p=61693
Here's the link to her Rose Candle http://www.in-memory-of-pets.com/per...e.asp?ID=47750 Click on the twinkling star in the right corner to see the picture.

[rena paloma]

saying sweetie has a disease...that is a disgrace.
they do not all have diseases, just like all humans dont have diseases.
i love all pigeons, even the ones i dont know. i love sweetie and both of you, and you are in my prayers.
the church is supposed to welcome everyyone, and you should tell the pastor that the pidge makes you happy, and that should be acceptable seeing that it must be difficult these days being between homes and such.

[Sweetie]

Hi, Rena:

I am sorry to let you know this, but Sweetie died on January 30, 2005. I thought she only died of being eggbound. But she may have not been able to handle the cold the last 3 days of her life. We started to get rides up to the college to use the computers. What had happened the night that our friend was dropping us off, the pastor was there. The pastor wanted Victor to drop by sometime that week because he wanted to talk to him. It seemed like after that night the rides had stopped. This happened 3 days before Sweetie died. The temperatures dropped down to 0 in the evening of January 27th. We had to walk home that night no ride. We had to walk to the college on January 28th and January 29th. I was scared because Sweetie was still occupying my purse. On January 29th it must have been to much on her. She died on January 30, 2005 at 1:15AM. I didn't know that it may have been the cold that may have been to much for her until yesterday, when the pastor decided to throw our things out at 8AM in the morning. My husband told me that the pastor made a police report on our friend because he thought we should have been walking instead of riding, he thought we deserved to walk. The pastor said I make the decissions around here and I had everything to do with everything that happened thus far. The pastor said give me the key and I will tell you where your things and your mail are. My husband did and the pastor said everything was in the garbage dumpster including the mail we received. He placed the mail inside of a white garbage bag untied. My husband was very angry, and yelled at the pastor for what he had done. No one in the church knew I even had a bird. The pastor had every attention to do what he did. It cost Sweetie her life. I just found out yesterday. The pastor had made Sweetie, me, and Victor feel like we were nothing but a piece of garbage to him.

I am giving you and this group the pastor's name and email address so if you feel like doing so you can write him a line to tell him what you think of his tactics if you like.

Pastor Tom Lange
poppastort@aol.com

Thank you,

Victoria Lutes
Sweetie said Goodbye

[Pete Jasinski]

Hello Victoria,
When you get settled in email me with your new contact info and I will mail you back Sweeties pictures. If you want I will scan and post more pics, it's up to you and your husband.
Take care and God Bless you and your husband and eternally watch over Sweetie

[SmithFamilyLoft]

For what it is worth, I already sent "Pastor" Lange an email. I don't know what it means in terms of hope for the world, when people such as Victoria and pigeons such as Sweetie, are thrown into the garbage pail, by a "Pastor" of a church.

I sure hope, when I die, that I am not going to the same place as this "Pastor", just way to much Love, for me !

[rena paloma]

i am really upset for you and sweetie, i can not believe that all three of you were taken in than thrown out like that, how inhumane. this i sone of the saddest stories i think i have ever seen on pigeon talk, and anywhere. i sent him, the pastor a long e mail expressing my dissapointment, i was raised in a religious house and never were we ever told to reject anyone, especially after inviting them into our home and safe space. i believe that pigeons are little angels, and may sweetie rest in heaven with all of the other angels, i send my peace.
rena paloma (queenie pigeon...it really is my last name!)pronounced peej-oh