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Old 27th June 2007, 07:42 PM
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Two Feral Pigeons Found- NEED HELP!


I have two gorgeous little babies in a box in my room right now.

They are both pretty docile and tame. I have pictures of both of them and their injuries to share, so if anyone would please give me a hand with some advice it would be greatly appreciated.

Pigeon 1- Zion - Still has some baby fluff. Slight molting around the beak, Slight molting on the chest. I presume this was because he was covered in feces when I found him.
He has a wound on his wing. Not too bad but he is not flying anywhere.
Cleaned him, placed him in the box and gave him bread and water.

Would like to know what steps to take in caring for him further.

Pigeon 2- Seph- Missing almost a whole wing. We found him downtown, in a very busy area. I do not believe that a cat is to blame, could have been a traffic accident. He does not seem to be in much pain, and reacts well to me cleaning his wing wound. I have a very good picture of this wound. He is otherwise fat, perky and healthy. Able to feed himself and is now relaxing in the large cardboard box with his new pal Zion.

Would like to know how to clean and dress a wing wound. I understand that this bird is too injured to be released and will take full responsibility for his further well being and care. I like both of them and would like to also know how I might go about keeping them, feeding them and providing long term care arrangements.

I have kept birds in the past, cockatiels and love birds. They are very responsive to me and I am excellent at handling birds so I was glad to help these little angels.

I will post pictures in a reply to this post as soon as I host them on photobucket. Just wanted to get this letter posted asap so that I can get on top of Seph's wound situation.

Thanks!

Angel.
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Old 27th June 2007, 07:47 PM
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Me holding Zion



Zion's beak



Zion's Breast Bone is showing here.



Zion's wing injury and some of his molting. This bird was absolutely filthy when I found him.
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Seph's Wing Injury



Another shot of Seph's Wing.
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Old 27th June 2007, 07:48 PM
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Sure would be nice if you could at least get them on Clavamox (Amoxicillin plus Clavulanic Acid... it goes under other names like Synulox and Augmentin) or even Amoxicillin. This would mostly be because of the worry of a systemic Pasteurella multocida infection which can be lethal to birds seeing as how the wounds are of unknown origin.

Here's a thread you can go read of something similar:

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=16607

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Old 27th June 2007, 07:53 PM
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Actually, it looks like the feathers are gone but the underlying structure is intact. Here's a link to drawings of the skeletal structure so that you can feel that out better:

http://people.eku.edu/ritchisong/skeleton.html

What you might seriously consider doing is giving the bird a bath in some warm water (~95 degrees F) that has just enough Dawn in it to make wetting the feathers easy (they're usually pretty resistant to getting REALLY wet) and also add a capful of Clorox bleach (half gallon of actual water). That will help kill external bacteria that may be rotting the feathers off. I've seen that before.

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Old 27th June 2007, 07:54 PM
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Pidgey, I have a prescription for Amoxicillin that is my own. I have 500mg Capsules for an ear infection I had last month. I have a few left.

Is there a way to safely administer this to the birds? If not that means I have to go to a vet right? *counts bills* I hope I can afford that. But if not, I mean what can I do right?

I can most likely dilute the powder into an eye dropper and feed it to them but what dosage? How do you medicate a bird anyway? I've cared for healthy birds for ages but never a sick one.

What do I clean the wounds with?
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Old 27th June 2007, 07:54 PM
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Where, basically, are you in case we've got resources in your area?

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Old 27th June 2007, 07:55 PM
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Thanks for helping these two out, the look to be in tough shape. You didn't
mention your general whereabouts....could be that we have someone in the
area that can help out or perhaps a rehabber or vet willing to medically care
for pigeons. Please do let us know. Do you have any medications on hand?
Augmentin/Clavamox would be ideal, Doxycycline will also work well and if you
had only Amoxicillin, well that would be better than nothing.

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Old 27th June 2007, 07:56 PM
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This may sound silly but I don't have any bleach in the house!!!!! Ahh ok, rubbing alcohol? Peroxide? Saline? I have all that stuff for people wounds.
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Old 27th June 2007, 07:57 PM
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Wounds can be washed w/a solution of Hydrogen Peroxide and water at a ratio
of 10 parts to 1 part. Actually since you have saline solution, that would be my first
choice.

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Old 27th June 2007, 07:57 PM
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I am in Hamilton Ontario.
We'd like to care for these babies as best we can so if you do know any feral rehabs in the Greater Toronto Area that would be willing to help out then feel free to send me the numbers and I'll do my best to get them taken care of.

Again I have the antibiotics here, how do I give it to them ?
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Old 27th June 2007, 07:59 PM
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Sweet, here we go giving Seph a bath! I've just water washed the wing but now that means hes getting some good care!
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Old 27th June 2007, 08:01 PM
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On the Amoxicillin, let's shoot for 100 mg/kg, PO, BID which is the medical notation for 100 milligrams of medication (pure substance) per kilogram of bird, orally, twice daily. Assuming that the birds are of the 250 gram class, that'd be 25 milligrams per bird, twice per day. That means that you'd need to take each capsule, split the case and divide the contents up into 20 fairly equal piles. You can do that by either making a line and dividing it up with a ruler (razor blade and glass works real well) or putting the contents into a good, sealable bottle with a quantity of water that you can then divvy out with a syringe. You have to be able to measure the original quantity of water and then the dosage out with a 1 milliliter syringe or something like that. Which method would you prefer (gotta' refrigerate the liquid version)?

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Old 27th June 2007, 08:02 PM
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Oh yes how should I wash Zion, warm water on a soft cloth I rubbed him down and got most of the feces off as best I could.

Hes one dirty bird, I didn't want to stress him out too much so I just washed him a little until I really know what I'm doing.
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Old 27th June 2007, 08:03 PM
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Toronto, huh? Sounds like Jazaroo's territory. Haven't seen him on today but he's only an email away (although might be past his bedtime).

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