Urgent help...baby pigeons without a mother

[Becca199212]

Why would you do such a thing!
Why record it, and why do it in the first place?
You can clik on flag as inapropiate, I don't know if it actually does anything but it's wortha try, they mightremove it if all of us clik it.

[cyro51]

Many thanks to all of you for responding. The person who made the video had UK in front of their name so I'm assuming they live in the UK

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I am glad I didn't see it, I am crying as it is. If someone could repost the link then we UK members can each report it to the RSPCA, contact the papers and kick up a stink.

It's OK, I have found it.

Cynthia

[cyro51]

I telephoned the RSPCA, they gave me their headquarters number to telephone. I am about to do that, I hope others will too. It is an 0870 number, probably costs 8p a minute. ) 0870 3335 999

THey also told me that my service provider might be able to trace the video. I don't just want that video removed, I want the person responsible prosecuted!

I also e-mailed the Wildlife Crime Unit.

Cynthia

[cyro51]

I got through to the RSPCA and they said that legislation does not specifically forbid the feeding of live vertebrates to captive animals. I wish I could remember what legislation I had read that in, it was such a comfort to me!

They also said that the person that submitted the video need not have been the person that took it. But they will do what they can.

I found their policy on this and it states:

5.2.2
The RSPCA is opposed to the feeding of live vertebrate prey to captive animals...The feeding of live prey may be viewed as illegal under the provisions of the Protection of Animals Act 1911.

So not as straightforward as I had hoped. But what horrible people we share this world with.

Cynthia

[Trees Gray]

Thank you Cynthia for taking action on this, and to all our members who also will call and complain.

Thank you for removing the link, wildlife-rehab, we know you didn't do this intentionally.

[Fever]

I hope that it gets taken down, but to be honest, I've seen some pretty horrific things on YouTube. After seeing a video where a lionness and a bear in a Korean zoo were forced to fight to see which would win, I never went back to that site.

I used to keep pet rats, and I'd buy them for a discount by saying they were feeder rats, not pets.

I can't come up with a good argument why this bird shouldn't have been fed to the spider (the tarantula does need to eat), but there's no need to turn it into entertainment.

[Pisciottano]

Hello Animallover07,
What about the little ones being fed by dad? Is everything allright now? I've followed this thread with great interest. Would love an update. Many thanks, Gladys

[animallover07]

The mother and the father come by everyday to feed it. The smaller baby pigeon is becoming larger. But how long will it take for the babies to learn how to fly?

[jdjd]

I am in shock who would put a video of a snake or anything eating a helpless animal and I find this not funny at all as someones attempt as a sick joke!!!

[jdjd]

Thats great that you think the parents are comming back and feeding! Hope everything goes well

[animallover07]

hi guys. The babies are doing well. They've grown a bit larger and one of them are starting to fly a bit. But anyway, 2 days ago another bird, kind of their size and looked like a juvenille to, flew to their nest and won't go away. It seems to get along with them very well and I think it flew from my neighbor's terrace. When I approached it it flew away back to it's own nest somewhere but eventually came back. It looks more developed than the two I already had, and it's also looks their size, and it is also fed by their parents. Do you think that it could be their brother or sister?

[Lovebirds]

Originally Posted by animallover07

hi guys. The babies are doing well. They've grown a bit larger and one of them are starting to fly a bit. But anyway, 2 days ago another bird, kind of their size and looked like a juvenille to, flew to their nest and won't go away. It seems to get along with them very well and I think it flew from my neighbor's terrace. When I approached it it flew away back to it's own nest somewhere but eventually came back. It looks more developed than the two I already had, and it's also looks their size, and it is also fed by their parents. Do you think that it could be their brother or sister?

No, it's not a brother/sister. If your birds have a brother and/or sister somewhere, they wouldn't be the same age. This is probably another youngster who's beginning to explore outside of it's nest and found this one by mistake and likes it there. It's ok as long as the parents of your birds don't hurt it. Sometimes parent birds will feed another youngster with no problem, but sometime they view it as an intruder and will peck it, so I would keep an eye on this little visitor.

[animallover07]

ok well the birds have flown away. The bigger one flew away first with the stranger bird and the younger one just flew away yesterday. They're gone now but sometimes they return to visit then leave

[cyro51]

I am so glad that all enede well for these babies!

Cynthia

[cyro51]

Back to the tarantula videos (there is a part 2). Even though it may be regarded as a waste of time I think it is always important to express an objection to cruelty. It may not have an immediate effect but it could have a cummulative effect over the years. Tarantulas need to eat, but they can eat insects. The baby pigeon was offered as food because it was aware and it is that awareness that the person that took the video and/or posted it considered enjoyable.

I found the reference about the legality of offering live prey. It was in Les Stocker's book and it said "It is illegal in this country to offer live vertebrate prey to birds and mammals in captivity"...the implication is that they can be offered to other animals, but even the RSPCA's policies are against this practice.

So, if anyone wants to stand up and be counted, go to youtube and flag that video and any other video involving a frightened animal being offered as live prey as inappropriate.

Cynthia