Whats wrong with this pigeon?

[kittensofdoom]

Hello i just joined this web site hoping to get some info on a new friend i found about 2 days ago i was taking a walk and came across a pigeon on the ground it seemed perfectly normal but i noticed once i got close to it he tried running away and not flying I knew something was wrong so i caught him because there was a middle school right by and idk what those kids would do to the bird so I brought it home and looked for info on him he started pooping green poop but ppl say that is normal he normally stands in the corner of the container he is in I’ve given him food (split pea’s, sun flower seed) and water he seems to be doing good but can fly as good as a chicken he is on my shoulder right now and doesn’t seem that scared of me even though he occasionally makes a little squeak im wondering if anybody knows what wrong with him and what i should do it seems like a very nice bird

[pdpbison]

Hi Kittensofdoom,




I will guess he or she is still very young, was learning to forage, had got seperated from Mom and Dad...and possibly has nothing wrong, other than that they were orphaned before gaining enough experience...then ended up going hungry a while.


Probably privation caused them to cease flying.


Can you post some images?


And, describe the poops and urates? Colors, consistancies, how-many in a day?



Phil
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[kittensofdoom]

Ok, well I can upload some pictures in a couple minutes but its poop its normally a light colored green and is very liquidy it has a little white in it and i think this pigeon is trusting towards me being that it has been on my lap shoulders and has slept for over an hour before he pooped green and white on me i dont know if its a baby because its pretty big almost the size of a normal pigeon you would see roaming LA and has purple on the back of it neck but one strange thing ive noticed its been doing sense ive had it is he has retracted his neck and puffed up i dont know if its the cold weather or what it is. Anyway il upload the pictures in a couple minutes.

[Charis]

I think the Pigeon doesn't know how to each very well on it's own yet and so you may need to hand feed for a while until it get the hang of it.
You can defrost some frozen corn and peas under warm water and then very gently open the Pigeon's beak and pop the corn and peas to the back of the throat. The Pigeon will swallow.
You will need to feed 25-30 at a time and feed the Pigeon every time the crop empties. Always have seed available for the Pigeon so it can practice eating.

[TAWhatley]

Hi Kittensofdoom. Welcome to Pigeon-Talk and thank you for assisting this pigeon. Please do post some pics as soon as you can.

What part of LA are you in? We may have someone nearby that can assist if needed.

Terry

[kittensofdoom]

Ok i finally got the pictures sry if there blown up

[kittensofdoom]

also thank you for the info on feeding the bird bcz i gave it a few peas and after the third one it started trying to grab them out of my fingers you could tell he was learning bcz it would take him a few trys at it but it seemed very hungry bcz everytime i delayed to feeding it the enxt pea it would start nipping my hand and squeaking also sense its getting cold outside what should i add to my birds container to keep it warm i put a wash cloth over it and it hasnt moved at all. also how can i tell if its boy or girl anyways thank you for the info and keep telling me more

[pdpbison]

Hi Kittens of doom,



By the appearance of this Pigeon, they were pobably already eating and flying on their own, pior to being grounded.


They are young, but no so young as to have not yet fledged unto some measure of self sufficiency.


Probably supplimental warmth would be good.


The 'green' you mention of the poops...might be 'bile' - take some on a fingertip and smear it on white paper...

If it has fibre in it, it's 'poop'...

If it is like green 'paint', it's 'bile'.


Bile is a sign of starvation.


Possibly, he is only suffering from privation, but, he could be ill, also.


Can you post some close-up images of the poops?


Being quite young yet, and feeling poorly-vulnerable, he is accepting you as a sort of step-in parent.


For now, do find a way to get him quite a bit warmer...heating pad, space heater, or something, so he can freely elect a warm spot...free to reject it if he wants. Offer a warm draft free spot up at least elbow high or higher...not low.


Poor appetite and chill are not uncommon with illness-privation in grounded youngsters or even adults...who often can not make their own warmth well for being run down.


Warmth helps...allows their system to have more energy, helps appetite...


Poops ideally would be Raisin size or bigger, occuring to the tune of about fourty five or fifty in 24 hours if all was well.


Maybe get some 'Dove Mix' or other small whole Seed blend, even some real Pigeon Mix if you can find it or borrow some.


These will likely interest him a lot more than soft Peas or dry Lentils...and will help get him pecking.


How many poops has he done in 24 hours?


And, are they 'poops' or 'bile'?


Images of them, either way?



Good luck..!


Phil
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[AZWhitefeather]

Originally Posted by kittensofdoom

also thank you for the info on feeding the bird bcz i gave it a few peas and after the third one it started trying to grab them out of my fingers you could tell he was learning bcz it would take him a few trys at it but it seemed very hungry bcz everytime i delayed to feeding it the enxt pea it would start nipping my hand and squeaking also sense its getting cold outside what should i add to my birds container to keep it warm i put a wash cloth over it and it hasnt moved at all. also how can i tell if its boy or girl anyways thank you for the info and keep telling me more

Many thanks for rescuing & caring for this little one.

I would suggest placing a towel lined heating pad, set on low, in the container. Place it in such a way that the pij can move off it if he so desires. If you don't have a heating pad, you can place the container under a low wattage lamp.

In a pinch, you can fill a sock about 2/3 with rice & microwave it for a few seconds, making sure it isn't too hot & wrap it around him.

When they are compromised, for whatever reason, they are unable to maintain their normal body temperature. Supplemental heat can make all the difference in the world.

Here's the link to the basic life saving steps. Please follow these steps until further assistance is sought.
http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/f25/ba...dove-8822.html

Please do keep us posted.

Cindy

[kittensofdoom]

Thanks a bunch for the info and im sorry but i dont have any of those things other than the sock and rice but do you think it would also work if i heated up some water and put it in a heated water container and let the heat radiate throughout his cage?

[kittensofdoom]

o nvm il do the towel wrapped watter bottle but for now i think il wrap him up in a warm towel real quick just to get him warmer also an update on the poop is its still green and white also liquidy and he pooped about 4 times sense 11:00 last night when i got up to feed him the peas he was very eager for the food nibling at my fingeres when i was trying to pick him up so i fed him also the room temperature in my house is 65 degrees im wondering if that is an ok temp for pigeons

[Skyeking]

Thank you for rescuing this bird. I would definitely get him out of any cold air drafts and cover the cage on all 4 sides except the front, if you are using a cage. You can hand feed him some, (just a few pieces) whole corn, as that will help him to generate some heat.

here is resource to get some help for this needy bird:

http://www.pigeon-life.net/prd.htm

[kittensofdoom]

well i dont have any corn but i have been feeding him warmed up pea's and i keep them in warm water so they are pretty heated when i feed them to him but not to hot also im sorry to say but nobody lives that close to me.

[kittensofdoom]

Ok i finally got the pic of the poop sry for bad quality ive been useing my phone

[rainbows]

We really need to know where you are... what town?? We may have a close member who can assist you with this bird.