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After a long absence here, and after re-reading this thread again, I'm forced to admit that I was initially mistaken. Warren has thought this issue though brilliantly, but ever-so-slightly misdirected his advice concerning the species involved.

The root cause is the human race in its entirety! The solution? Warren has just given it to us: stop feeding and/or making it possible for humans to nourish themselves and reproduce! The weakest and least-resistant will go first, of course. No more poor and homeless! Wow, what a breath of fresh air for those of us who remain

But that's just the start: to keep the degenerate species which Homo Sapiens Sapiens has become from reproducing, destroying the eco-system and generally making the existence of all the earth's flora and fauna an increasingly living hell, we could progressively apply Warren's technique of attrition to everyone, everywhere. Initially, only the very healthiest, intelligent and strongest would surivive. Pure natural selection, just as Dear Old Mother Nature intended!

Ultimately however - and here's where it really gets good - birth rates would fall beneath the level needed to perpetuate our species, culminating in its definitive extinction!

Who's with me on ushering in a new and rational approach to the problem of the human race's overrunning of the planet with its disease, filth, wars, arrogance, stupidity and destruction?

Am I serious?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr_MJAOyOeU

You betcha!


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After a long absence here, and after re-reading this thread again, I'm forced to admit that I was initially mistaken. Warren has thought this issue though brilliantly, but ever-so-slightly misdirected his advice concerning the species involved.

The real mess is the human race in its entirety! The solution? Warren has just given it to us: stop feeding and/or making it possible for humans to nourish themselves and reproduce! The weakest and least-resistant will go first, of course. No more poor and homeless! Wow, what a breath of fresh air for those of us who remain

But that's just the start: to keep the degenerate species which Homo Sapiens Sapiens has become, from reproducing, destroying the eco-system and generally making the existence of all the earth's flora and fauna an increasingly living hell, we could progressively apply Warren's technique of attrition to everyone, everywhere. Initially, only the very healthiest, intelligent and strongest would surivive. Pure natural selection, just as Dear Old Mother Nature intended!

Ultimately however - and here's where it really gets good - birth rates would fall beneath the level needed to perpetuate our species, culminating in its definitive extinction!

Who's with me on ushering in a new and rational approach to the problem of the human race's overrunning of the planet with its disease, filth, wars, arrogance, stupidity and destruction?

Am I serious?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr_MJAOyOeU

You betcha!


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Well....this approach has been tried before, throughout history. The most recent attempt was with the polices put in place during the 1930's and 1940's by the German goverment under Adolf Hitler. If someone were to seriously suggest, that we manage the human population like we have "managed" various other animals, well my suggestion would be to first of all, apply these methods first to yourself and then to your own family. I know my family had numerous members who fought to prevent the Nazis from fullfilling their dreams, and I suspect we would do the same thing all over again, should someone attempt to "manage" the human species in such a manner again. And I suspect there are hundreds of millions of people just like me......

I like animals, and I like people. But, push come to shove, I sort of like humans more. And if a bear or a wolf, or a dog, were attempting to eat a child, well, I am going to side with the kid on this one. Most likely would risk my own life, to save a child, even if I don't "know" them. Maybe that is why we have survived all these thousands of centuries, while other creatures have not ?

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Why can't people just be kind?

Because they have a free will to decide which way they want to go-to be kind or to be cruel. Some people think they can control, when in reality only God controls and makes decisions of life and death.

If each of us would pray and READ the Bible,not just for ourselves but for each other and live as Jesus did in this world,all issues would resolve themselves.

God has total control over everything, and He would not allow anything to happen if He didn't want it to. He is loving and merciful and you have the choice to be close to Him or not at all. His mercy will end, and then justice will prevail.
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Why can't people just be kind?

Because they have a free will to decide which way they want to go-to be kind or to be cruel. Some people think they can control, when in reality only God controls and makes decisions of life and death.

If each of us would pray and READ the Bible,not just for ourselves but for each other and live as Jesus did in this world,all issues would resolve themselves.

God has total control over everything, and He would not allow anything to happen if He didn't want it to. He is loving and merciful and you have the choice to be close to Him or not at all. His mercy will end, and then justice will prevail.
OH Trees ...
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The real mess is the human race in its entirety! The solution? Warren has just given it to us: stop feeding and/or making it possible for humans to nourish themselves and reproduce! The weakest and least-resistant will go first, of course. No more poor and homeless! Wow, what a breath of fresh air for those of us who remain
Ryannon,
That is an incredibly cruel and disrespectful comment.
To even think of, let alone post, such a suggestion sickens me.


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If someone were to seriously suggest, that we manage the human population like we have "managed" various other animals, well my suggestion would be to first of all, apply these methods first to yourself and then to your own family.
Good idea!

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Love you too, Cins.

Have a good one!
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Some people think they can control, when in reality only God controls and makes decisions of life and death.

God has total control over everything, and He would not allow anything to happen if He didn't want it to.

If that's the case, given all the needless suffering, killings (any living being), unfaithfulness, ect., ect., that goes on, God need to adjust his halo. JMO

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Why can't people just be kind?
Have you ever met a person who doesn’t think that is kind for him/herself?
I didn’t.
Serendipity feeds pigeons, she is breaking the law, don’t we all do?
Someone will say no I don’t! And you newer ever paid speeding ticket or parking fine? This is also breaking the law.
We are only humans and if we where perfect law would not exist.
People as Jesus set example of kindness, but do not forget that Jesus was crucified in accordance with the law at that time. Should we crucify Serendipity???
P.S. I like Pegasus statement “If they don’t catch you it’s OK to break a law.” LOL
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If that's the case, given all the needless suffering, killings (any living being), unfaithfulness, ect., ect., that goes on, God need to adjust his halo. JMO
God is not policemen!

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There's nothing like dredging up a old, heated thread, to get us all going, all over again.
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Haven't any of you guys ever read A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift? Sheesh!

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Haven't any of you guys ever read A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift? Sheesh!

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Given some of the reactions so far, I rather doubt it.
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FYI....

A Modest Proposal was satire. See the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal


I believe Ryannon's post was in the spirit of satire.


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FYI....

A Modest Proposal was satire. See the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal


I believe Ryannon's post was in the spirit of satire.


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DING! DING! DING!

We've got a winner, folks!

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Forget the poor pigeons for a moment.

The real question is, WHY CAN'T PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM BE KIND TO EACH OTHER?


/sound of crickets....

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I'm not going to talk about this topic again, I remember when I made my comments about it, anyways I just want to say hi to Ryannon, I didn't see you for a long time here, email me when you have a chance.

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