Can you help identify my pigeon?

[alaska]

Thanks for the replies.

Here are two pictures I managed to snap before I lost battery power on my camera:

First is the loft/pen that I built for Cecil:
http://www.woftamplace.com/images/loftpen.jpg

Second is a close up (although rather blurred) which shows how broad Cecil's Chest is and vaguely shows the stripe across his head, as he shows of standing on one leg.
http://www.woftamplace.com/images/cecilb.jpg

Do you think this is a suitable enclosure?
Should I make any modifications?

I am thinking of getting a mate for Cecil/ia in the future, are there any recommendations you could give or anything I should be careful of when selecting a mate?

Oh and one last thing, how often do pigeons usually lay eggs?

[alaska]

I was wondering are tumblers and rollers the same or very similar?
I want to get a mate for Cecil so I want to get a similar breed.

BTW I have made up a quick page with some updated pics of how Cecil is looking, he looks much sleeker and stronger now, plus looking more comfortable in his new surrounds. It's only been a week, but it seems much longer.

Here is the link:
www.woftamplace.com/cecil

PS: I was wondering how you put a personalised avatar in this forum? I have a pic of cecil that would fit nicely

[Reti]

What a beautiful bird.
He is so lucky you found him and took him in.

Reti

[TAWhatley]

Cecil is a very handsome bird, indeed! You also made him a great home! As to the personal avatars, they are currently only possible for the moderators of the group.

Terry

[elvis_911]

Nice ideas i agree with ree lee.

[alaska]

Cecil thanks you for the nice comments, she does her best to pose in front of the camera
Yes I have decided the refer to Cecil as a she until proven otherwise from now on due to her behaviour and appearance, I am almost certain that Cecil (formally Cecilia) is a she after spending some time around her. I just wish she would lay an egg to prove me right.

I went to the feed shop the other day and saw some nesting materials for different birds like canaries and budgies, they were very fine material, I also saw fine wood shavings, and some lucern which was a suggested nesting material, would you know if any of these materials are suitable for pigeons?

Are tumblers a sub-category of rollers, or vice versa?

Ree Lee and Elvis_911, would you have any url's to pages showing me what a kormor tumbler looks like?

Thanks

[alaska]

Hi All,
I have been searching around the web looking at picture upon picture of pigeons in an attempt to home in (pigeon pun) on exactly what breed Cecil is.
If have found these two photos (courtesy of ANPA) that I believe closely resemble Cecil


Here is a picture of Cecil


A birmingham Roller


And a flying tippler

According to one site these breeds descend from the same heritage, and they both seem to have alot of appearance in common with Cecil.
Perhaps as mentioned there may be a bit of a mix in Cecil history, though I am fairly confident that this lineage would be were Cecil has come from.
Would you agree?