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Old 11th March 2005, 11:59 AM
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I Have A New GrandFid!


Hi All,

At long last Castor and FanFan successfully hatched a baby
yesterday. The other egg you see in the pictures
got a serious dent in it from them on about day two .. I taped it,
but when I checked the egg tonight, the partially developed
embryo was dead .. the membrane of the egg had dried out.

Anyway, we've got one .. sadly, the first thing they did was
both get off of it, and it got cold. I put it on heat last tonight and
then back with the parents this morning .. so far, so good.

http://www.rims.net/FanBaby

and some better pics from today .. this is Mom On The Job
and very unhappy with my interference http://www.rims.net/FanBaby2

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Old 11th March 2005, 12:07 PM
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Hi Terry,

Awwwww....congratulations on the new "grand fid". I'm sorry but I don't recall the story of Castor and Fanfan or why they were having such a hard time raising young. However, I sense your happiness and I'm very happy for you, Castor and FanFan


Thanks for the delightful pics,
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Old 11th March 2005, 01:06 PM
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Hi Terry,

Isn't Castor the fantail that Peapicker drove to you all the way from Kentucky and lost his mate Pollux around the same time? So glad to hear everything worked out for you and Castor and congratulations on the new baby....best wishes that everything goes well.

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Old 11th March 2005, 01:30 PM
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I'm curious to see this baby growing up. Never seen a baby Fantail. Do their tails fan out at a young age? So cute.............
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Old 11th March 2005, 02:16 PM
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Thanks everyone! Yes, Castor is Marjorie's beautiful boy, and yes, he was driven from Kentucky to California to become my beautiful boy. FanFan is one of my rescues from several years ago. It was such a delight to see Castor and FanFan become devoted mates. They have had many failed clutches since they got together, so their success with this one was a wonderful surprise.

Renee .. I've never seen a baby fantail myself, so I'll try to keep the pictures going as the baby grows, and we can all see how the baby develops. I would imagine that an itty bitty fan would appear as the feathers start coming in.

I'll bet Robert can answer this for us.

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Old 11th March 2005, 07:37 PM
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Congratulations!!!


What beautiful photos of the two of them. You were brave to get that close, considering the look FanFan is shooting you!!! The shot labeld hpim0536.jpg is neat because you can compare the baby's tiny toes to one of mama's. Really awesome - congratulations all around!
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Old 11th March 2005, 10:12 PM
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Thank you Terri! Yes, Mama was very, very upset with me, and I got one really effective wing whack for my paparazzi efforts today. Great observation on your part about the toes!

Suffice it to say, you will all be sick of pictures of this baby before it's over <LOL>!

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Old 12th March 2005, 05:13 PM
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Oh, Terry,
Never sick of baby pics. All babies are cute, but there is something special about pigeon/dove babies. They are so homely, they're cute.
So glad you're now a grandparent.
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New Pics - Baby Fan, Frillbacks, and Trooper


Here's some new pics from today. Enjoy!

http://www.rims.net/2005Mar13

Terry
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Old 13th March 2005, 07:11 PM
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As the youngbird grows it will start its tail just as any other bird but it will be growing a fantail. with say 28 to 32 tail feathers. I noticed the birds are indian fantails. And I would suggest trimming the tails Say the first 7 feathers on each side as close as you can to the tail. And then trim the vent feathers. This helps them to fertile the eggs better without the old tail getting in the way. Then at the begining of the moult you just pluck out the trimmed tail feathers. Good luck with the youngbird
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Old 13th March 2005, 07:48 PM
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Thanks, Robert for the info .. actually the Mom (black and white) is clean legged .. Dad has feathered legs and feet. So what's the determining factor(s) .. clean legs/feet or the crest or lack thereof or some combination when trying to determine Indian vs. American?

Also, any guesses as to what color this baby might end up being .. Mom is white with a partial black fan and Dad is speckled .. brown and white?

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Old 13th March 2005, 08:44 PM
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The little guy is absolutely adorable. It would be cool to keep the thread going and post pictures as the little guy gets older.
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Hi Terry,

Not to detract from Castor and Fanfan's gorgeous little baby, but Trooper is a fine looking bird as well
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Wow! Those are some incredible fids you have there! They are drop dead gorgeous! Best of luck with all of them
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Going back and looking agin. Te hen still carries a crest. even though it has no muff. It is indian fantail. About color of the young bird. Being the hen shows about 3/4 tail mark. And the cock show just slight splash thru the body. If I was to guess. You could get a slightly marked tail mark. or a white. But I would look for a few marked tail feathers. They will show at the pin stage as being darker.The american fantail Will be smaller, no crest or muff, pull the head back to the pocket [ which is lower tail cushion feathers} If you band the young bird use an indian fantail band. The leg will be slightly larger then the american fan, and may develop a small muff. Though the cock is has a short muff and the hen no muff. It still may develop one.
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