Would like fertile egg

[mr squeaks]

Many thanks for the updates on Beeka and the Dinkster!!

Actually, looks like Dink is just doing a little playing around with your fingers and hand. He luuuves you!!

My WoeBeGone is quite vicious attacking my hands but that's because I'm in his territory (as in, clean his home) and he takes NO prisoners - strictly attack and kill/defeat! His mate, Gimie, is a live and let live pij and much calmer.

ALL the best to Beeka and her eggs. Are you going to candle to see if they are fertile? So far, Gimie's have not been fertile, but that could be due to her bad leg.

They sure have their own personalities, don't they?!

Sending Love, Hugs and Scritches

Shi/Squeaks/Dom/Gimie/Woe

[Maggie-NC]

That was a really cute video of the Dinkster. He is just acting that way because our Pidgey is his grandpa.

I'm glad Beeka had no trouble laying her eggs.

[rallow]

An odd thing happened this morning with The Dinkster and Beeka which shows the power of imprinting. As I sat at my computer I watched as The Dinkster did a mating dance for Beeka, who responded positively by squatting down receptively. The Dinkster however, who is such a horn-dog, with his constant humping of the feet or hands of myself and my wife, just took a look at her, then turned and walked away! I’ve suspected for a long time that The Dink does not know that he’s a pigeon. I guess this pretty much proves it.

[Larry_Cologne]

Rallow,

When I rescued female feral Osk-gurr, with the paralyzed right wing, my male rescued-as-a-baby and hand-raised Wieteke, who had several chicks by his former mate Mamieke, was indignant about her being in his nesting territory, and let Osk-gurr know it.

After the non-flying Osk-gurr had healed a bit and Wieteke had gotten used to her, she aggressively pursued him by trying to "kiss" with him, which he found hard to avoid. After they "kissed" several times, she hunched down and they mated. They had one offspring, Wie-Osk. Osk-gur and Wie-Osk went to a re-habber later, and Wieteke stayed with his territory until last summer. I think sticking their beaks under their wings and then kissing stimulates some hormones, and this transferral of hormones leads to mating. My speculation. Others here probably know more facts on this.

She's still in his territory, and may be simply acting submissive, as a prelude to catching him.

Larry

[mr squeaks]

Ahhhh, love is in the air!

Bet 'cha Beeka "catches" the Dinkster...sooner or later! Then....watch out...here come da eggs!

Squeaks isn't at all interested in Gimie, which is just as well because she has TWO males after her, but she really prefers her exotic Woe!

Looking forward to updates...I'm hoping Pidgey will make a stop by and give his comments...never know what HE will say! Would not surprise me if he encourages Dinkster to stay a "bachelor!" Mmmmm, then...on the OTHER hand...

Love, Hugs and Scritches
Shi

[rallow]

Beeka already laid 2 eggs, which I guess are the results of us petting her. Can't help it really because she looks so cute sitting in my slipper under a chair in the bedroom clucking as if asking to be petted. She's afraid of being touched most times, but not when she sitting there in my slipper, which forms a perfect nest for her, and is where she laid her eggs.

The Dinkster doesn't seem to resent Beeka being in the house in general, though he does chase her away when she ventures into his special places.

[rallow]

Video that shows Beeka's problem, and explains how we overcame it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QgLJ...e=channel_page

[TAWhatley]

Originally Posted by rallow

Video that shows Beeka's problem, and explains how we overcome it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QgLJ...e=channel_page

Beeka is lovely! Thank you for loving her as you do and for sharing the video with us!

Terry

[Jay3]

Originally Posted by rallow

Video that shows Beeka's problem, and explains how we overcome it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QgLJ...e=channel_page

rallow, my husband and I just love your videos. Your pijjies are adorable. Thanks for posting them.

[rallow]

I am just so glad that I found a forum of people who like myself, appreciate the fine character and attributes that pigeons have. Thanks to you all.

[Trees Gray]

Originally Posted by rallow

I am just so glad that I found a forum of people who like myself, appreciate the fine character and attributes that pigeons have. Thanks to you all.

Hi rallow,

We are GLAD you found us! Bless you for sharing your wonderful birds' antics with us!

[rallow]

So what now?
So far since we found Beeka in early January she has laid 10 eggs. What I do with them is to keep them for 3 weeks, and then break them just to assure myself that they are truly infertile. Since she’s not all that interested in sitting on them, I’ve been keeping them on a heating pad set on low, with insulation that I adjust in order to keep them at the right temperature, which I measure with an oral thermometer. Though the first 8 eggs were infertile, when I candled the last 2 today, I found that they appear to contain embryos. This presents me with a question, and a problems.

The question is, who could be the father? The Dinkster is so imprinted on people that he’s shown virtually no interest in Beeka. Still they are alone in the house sometimes, so who knows! There is also one outside who we call “Lefty”. We call him this because we put a small band on his left leg for the purposes on telling him from several other big males of the same size and color. It could be Lefty because a couple of weeks ago I accidently left the rear bedroom window open where we feed some of the locals. A short time later lefty suddenly came walking into the living room as if he owned the place. He could quite easily have stopped along the way for a tryst with Beeka.

The problem is, what will I do with these chicks if they should hatch? Though I do not want to destroy the eggs, we have 2 birds already in our small home, and I cannot think of anyone to whom I can give them.


By the way, I have purchased the domain name petpigeon.com, and am thinking of setting up a website for people who not only have an interest in pigeons, but who actually keep them as family pets, the same way they would a parrot of cockatoo. (I have my own server.) Here is the link. http://petpigeon.com Though I am very good at the technical side of the internet, when it comes to anything having to do with art, or artistic design, I am lost! So if there is anyone out there with an interest in such a project, who can design webpages, I would really like to hear from you. You can reach me at the eamil link on the website. Thanks.

[Lovebirds]

Originally Posted by rallow

So what now?
So far since we found Beeka in early January she has laid 10 eggs. What I do with them is to keep them for 3 weeks, and then break them just to assure myself that they are truly infertile. Since she’s not all that interested in sitting on them, I’ve been keeping them on a heating pad set on low, with insulation that I adjust in order to keep them at the right temperature, which I measure with an oral thermometer. Though the first 8 eggs were infertile, when I candled the last 2 today, I found that they appear to contain embryos. This presents me with a question, and a problems.

The question is, who could be the father? The Dinkster is so imprinted on people that he’s shown virtually no interest in Beeka. Still they are alone in the house sometimes, so who knows! There is also one outside who we call “Lefty”. We call him this because we put a small band on his left leg for the purposes on telling him from several other big males of the same size and color. It could be Lefty because a couple of weeks ago I accidently left the rear bedroom window open where we feed some of the locals. A short time later lefty suddenly came walking into the living room as if he owned the place. He could quite easily have stopped along the way for a tryst with Beeka.

The problem is, what will I do with these chicks if they should hatch? Though I do not want to destroy the eggs, we have 2 birds already in our small home, and I cannot think of anyone to whom I can give them.


By the way, I have purchased the domain name petpigeon.com, and am thinking of setting up a website for people who not only have an interest in pigeons, but who actually keep them as family pets, the same way they would a parrot of cockatoo. (I have my own server.) Here is the link. http://petpigeon.com Though I am very good at the technical side of the internet, when it comes to anything having to do with art, or artistic design, I am lost! So if there is anyone out there with an interest in such a project, who can design webpages, I would really like to hear from you. You can reach me at the eamil link on the website. Thanks.

Well, I guess my question is, why do you keep the eggs in the first place?
Do you replace them with plastic eggs so that Beeka sits on them full term? Throwing away a pigeon egg is no different than throwing away a chicken egg or any other kind of egg for that matter. It's just an egg at the beginning. When I separated my breeders this year, I threw away 26 eggs. Most likely, at least 24 of them COULD have become baby pigeons, but what the heck would I do with 24 more? I just don't see the point in saving the eggs for three weeks and THEN checking to see if they are fertile. When you take them away, throw them away and be done with it.

[rallow]

Forgive me for my silliness, but I have these issues and ideas about life its value, where it really begins and such, so I cannot take this as casually as you do. It would also seem to me that an egg with the spark of life inside it, is different from one that is infertile. Since my post I’ve found a home for one of the chicks, should there be any, as a pet for my 11 year old nephew.

[Trees Gray]

Originally Posted by rallow

Forgive me for my silliness, but I have these issues and ideas about life its value, where it really begins and such, so I cannot take this as casually as you do. It would also seem to me that an egg with the spark of life inside it, is different from one that is infertile. Since my post I’ve found a home for one of the chicks, should there be any, as a pet for my 11 year old nephew.

You are NOT silly at all, life is to be respected. With fertile pigeon or fertile chicken eggs, there is actually no cell division without incubation-no life at all, which is different from human life.

I'm happy your nephew will be another pigeon fan, and am happy he is taking one of the future "kids."