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Old 10th January 2004, 04:31 PM
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Broken/Torn Tail Feathers


Hi All !
My husband and I rescued a couple of pigeons from the city that couldn't fly. To my observation, I noticed that the ends of their tail feathers were -- sort of torn, not broken, but the ends were almost frayed. How would this happen?

I thought I saw a post somewhere that in order to encourage new feather growth, you have to pull the feather out totally. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this, because I will not do anything until I hear from you.

Also, does this hurt the bird in any way?

Thanks !

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Old 10th January 2004, 06:36 PM
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Hello and welcome,

Is there anything wrong with the bird or is it just the tail feathers? If there is something else going on we might be able to help

As for the feather, usually when you have a damaged feather the only way to fix it is to pull it out and let a new one grow, it doesn't hurt much, hold the feather firmly and the body of the bird and pull it straight out.

Hope that helps and keep us posted!

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Old 10th January 2004, 07:09 PM
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the tail feathers are usually for balance did u find these pigeons together if u did i think there is something wrong with them not there feathers keep us posted
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Old 11th January 2004, 12:36 AM
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Hello,

A lot of male feral pigeons have frayed tail feathers from dragging them along the ground when they display.

A pigeon that has all its tail feathers plucked will take 6 weeks to regrow them.

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Old 11th January 2004, 02:52 AM
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Missing tail feathers would not prevent a pigeon from flying unless the flight feathers on the wings were also affected. i should know, i tried to catch two that were completely tail-less last week and they both made a quick and getaway with no clumsiness in their flight.

Are they eating and drinking well? What are their poops like? Have you examined them carefully for injuries (including under the wings)? Do they show any nervous signs like head twisting, seed tossing or turning in circles?

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Old 11th January 2004, 07:05 PM
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Cynthia is correct, I've seen birds who don't have tails and they do pretty well until it grows back out, if it's not that badly damaged (cut up or oily...etc) then it should be ok.

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Old 12th January 2004, 04:45 AM
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We found the pigeons the same day, but they weren't together. Maybe same general area -- it's weird - anytime we find an injured pigeon, they seem to go to this specific corner - where they are the most vulnerable, but that's where it's easy for us to pick them up too.

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the tail feathers are usually for balance did u find these pigeons together if u did i think there is something wrong with them not there feathers keep us posted
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Old 12th January 2004, 04:47 AM
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One of the pigeons has solid, round poops, but the other one seems to have runny poops, and he does sit there kind of fluffed up, but not all the time. They both seem to be eating well --- what else could be wrong? Especially the one with runny poops?

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Missing tail feathers would not prevent a pigeon from flying unless the flight feathers on the wings were also affected. i should know, i tried to catch two that were completely tail-less last week and they both made a quick and getaway with no clumsiness in their flight.

Are they eating and drinking well? What are their poops like? Have you examined them carefully for injuries (including under the wings)? Do they show any nervous signs like head twisting, seed tossing or turning in circles?

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Old 12th January 2004, 04:50 AM
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They both seem to be eating and drinking well -- no head twisting, or seed tossing. They both seem to be pretty quiet


QUOTE]Originally posted by cyro51:
Missing tail feathers would not prevent a pigeon from flying unless the flight feathers on the wings were also affected. i should know, i tried to catch two that were completely tail-less last week and they both made a quick and getaway with no clumsiness in their flight.

Are they eating and drinking well? What are their poops like? Have you examined them carefully for injuries (including under the wings)? Do they show any nervous signs like head twisting, seed tossing or turning in circles?

Cynthia
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If the one pigeon has runny poops I would isolate him from the other for now, especially if he is sitting kind of "puffed up".

You might try giving him a little pro-biotics for good gut bacteria, and some liquid vitamins in the water for both. Maybe it is just something he ate in the wild. Are there any other symptoms displayed? If he continues with the runny poops, I would have it (the poop) checked under a microscope by an avian vet. He may just need some anti-biotics. Treesa
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Old 12th January 2004, 01:55 PM
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Try some ACV (Apple cider vinegar) in the water as well, the dose is usually 1/7 or 1/8 of a cup of AVC to a gallon of water, I just put a drop in my pigeon's water bowl and that should be alright, it shouldn't smell too sour.

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Unfortunately, my puffed up pidgy passed away yesterday. He was fine when we left for work in the morning, but then in the evening when I went to go change his food/water, I found him lifeless on his side. It was very upsetting.

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If the one pigeon has runny poops I would isolate him from the other for now, especially if he is sitting kind of "puffed up".

You might try giving him a little pro-biotics for good gut bacteria, and some liquid vitamins in the water for both. Maybe it is just something he ate in the wild. Are there any other symptoms displayed? If he continues with the runny poops, I would have it (the poop) checked under a microscope by an avian vet. He may just need some anti-biotics. Treesa
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Pat, I'm so sorry the one bird didn't make it. There are so many things that could have been wrong with the bird that it's close to impossible to guess what could have been the cause. Be happy that the bird was able to be safe and warm when his time came.

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Old 13th January 2004, 05:55 AM
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that was the same with one of my birds they had canker (trichomoniasis) 3 of mine died b4 i found out wot it was then i treated them 4 it look in back of mouth for white things there small just look closly there is a treatment for it called harkanker soluble u put 1 sachet in 1 gallon of water
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Pat,

You did the best you could. Considering the bird was showing few symptoms, it is so hard to be able to diagnose immediately.

It is heartbreaking though, I'm so sorry, but you made a difference in the birds life, how ever short the time was.

Just keep your eye on the other one, and perk him up with some avian vitamins and minerals. A little preventive maintenance would definitely help, if your not doing so already. Treesa
 

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